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What Drives People To Convert To Islam

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    What Drives People To Convert To Islam

    To begin with I have no intension to offend anyone or their personal beliefs.

    Reasons Why To Convert To Islam:

    The nature of religious faith is quite mysterious. As part of their religious faiths, people believe in a variety of deities. There are people who have religious faith in the unseen supreme inimitable power, and then there are others who believe in some humans as Gods, or animals (e.g. monkeys), fire, idols made of stone, and the list goes on.

    A lot is associated with having a religious “faith”. Part of it has to do with beliefs passed on through generations. People’s identities therefore get tied to it. Many times, these beliefs and associated feelings are not completely demonstrable by reason or any rational arguments. There is nothing right or wrong with this, but that’s just how the nature of religious faith has come to be.

    Almost everyone thinks they are right in their faith and beliefs. Being with people and groups with similar faith further strengthens people’s faith, and they see it as right, even though logical reasoning and argument sometimes can’t explain it all. That’s simple human psychology.

    Islam’s arguments based on intellectual reasoning

    Muslims believe however, that the Islamic religion is different in this context. One may argue that similar to other faiths there are aspects of it which are not completely demonstrable by reason, but on the other hand the Quranic text, which is God’s words addressing humanity at large, uses intellectual reason, critical thinking, and the process of reflection as a means not only to reinforce the faith of the believers, but also to call non-believers to ponder about the authenticity of Islam as the way of life for humanity at large. Although no religious beliefs can be fully based on logic and reasoning, Islam and Quran provide more than enough examples and an opportunity to examine the truth and the soundness of its message through the lens of empirical evidence and knowledge.

    No one (Muslim or otherwise) would argue that critical thinking and reflection can be a major catalyst for changing ones life. Critical thinking has been used by many to improve their lives simply because a critical thinker asks probing questions about a situation, collects as much information as possible, reflects on the ideas collected and generated in context of the information available, keeps an open and unbiased mind, and carefully scrutinizes assumptions and seeks alternatives.

    This is the reason, therefore, that new Muslim converts would attribute the use of intelligent reasoning, reflection and critical thinking when explaining their journey to Islam. Such people cut through the hysteria created in the media to view Islam from a critical lens and following the truth thus comes naturally to them as part of this process. How else can one explain the increase in conversions with the increase of anti-Islamic rhetoric? How else can one explain that more non-Muslim preachers have been converting to Islam than ever before? Although, as Muslims, we believe that guidance comes only from Allah, the use of a person’s God-gifted intellectual reasoning has a very powerful role to play in Muslim converts making that destiny changing decision. And once converted, they rarely go back to their old faiths, simply because a faith whose foundations are built on logic and reason is much less likely to be shaken down than one which simply builds upon a set of rites and sacraments.

    Reasons attributed by new Converts

    Some of the reasons given why people convert to Islam are the eloquence of the Quran’s language, its overwhelming scientific evidence and proofs, arguments rooted in intellectual reasoning, and the Divine wisdom behind various social issues. The uniqueness and beauty of the Quran’s text has been marveled by the best of Arab linguists and scholars, both Muslim and otherwise, from the days it was revealed until today. The more knowledgeable people are in the language, the more they appreciate the wonders of the textual fluency of the Quran. Revealed more than 1400 years ago, the Quran also has numerous scientific facts that are being validated by science only in this era. Furthermore, it is the only known religious text that challenges mankind to think, reflect and ponder over the creation at large, social issues, God’s existence, and more. The Quran, in many instances, challenges people to reflect and think on their own, rather than heeding the loose talk of those whose criticism is based on baseless foundations. Finally, the Quran provides a solution to numerous social issues, deviation from which has been known to cause societal chaos at all levels.

    The Quran is a confident assertion of a Supreme Being; the only known religious book that has a confident assertion of a Supreme Being on all issues ranging from the creation of the universe to most particular components of the social milieu. Moreover, its Divine Text - the language and prose of the Quran - is very different from the language in the Prophet’s sayings, which demonstrates that the Quran is not from the creative imagination or inspired words of Prophet Muhammad, as many doubters have alleged in the past, and continue to do even today.

    We can see that most of these reasons can only be attributed to the process of critical thinking and intellectual reflection. However, cold reasoning is not enough. The heart has to be engaged in the search: a search whose aim is to reach for the truth at its core. No wonder, then, that when such sincere people hear the Quran for the first time, and understand it, they say:

    “We believe in it; surely, it is the Truth from our Lord. Indeed, even before it, we were Muslims!” (Quran 28:53)

    Post here of what you think about Islam and reasons why you should not convert.
     
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    Why not convert? Because it's a waste of life to believe in any God, especially one with a book based on so many obvious contradictions.
     
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    The one thing I can't stand about Islam and Muslim's in Australia is their attempt to preach their beliefs to others around them.

    OF COURSE OTHER RELIGIONS DO THAT, THEY EVEN GO DOOR KNOCKING, BUT LISTEN TO THIS:

    In Australia, Muslims go on National News to tell the country that there are too many Muslims for them to be stopped, and that one way or another they will have Islam in all Australian households.

    No other religion gives that message in Australia.
     
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    They are the fastest growing/spreading religion at the moment, and you only have to look at areas of Sydney like bankstown and lakemba to realize that they are spreading, some of the shops in those places dont even have English on their shop signs.. It pisses me off to be honest but the government seems to be letting it happen.
     
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    I don't believe in God, yet I can see the adavantage of believing in one. Religion shouldn't be static; it should be dynamic and able to adjust to the modern world.
     
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    One Muslim doesn't represent the religion...
     
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    So it should be forbidden being muslim,becouse it fucks you off?
     
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    To seek internal happiness.
     
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    This made me laugh, you're saying the Quran is divine because the Quran says so. You're begging the question and in reality it holds no water. It's like saying the cat in the hat is real because the cat in the hat book says so.

    All religions are ridiculous, I want every religious person to look at Scientology and if you say that it sounds completely ridiculous then take a look at your own. Scientology is just the religion of modern times. Just like yours was when it was created.
     
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    Christians do that all the time. They go around preach to others about what's right. At least with Islam, the truth is actually being told. It's up to a person on whether or not they want to convert to Islam. Stop being so ignorant.

    Someone's beliefs piss you off. Amazing.
     
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    For social opportunities and they have weak minds.

    Not trolling, being completley serious.
     
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    And Islam is the truth because...?

    The entire Muslim religion is beyond a joke, as it is a compilation of the already absurd stories of Christianity and Judaism with its own twist. The religion preaches that we must accept that god revealed all his wisdom to a single man in the Arabian peninsula through an angelic medium. The evidence for this proposition alone is very scanty, however the religion also makes us to believe that the Quran, a book authored by an illiterate shepherd in the 6th century AD, is a more accurate record about ancient events than both testaments of the Bible, though the date of their composition predates that of the Quran by hundreds of years, in the case of the New, and thousands of years, in the case of the Old.

    I ask of you all to present to me a SINGLE verse of the Quran which conveys knowledge that would have been totally inaccessible to a 6th century Arab.

    I wish to conclude this post with a few words of poetry from the Rubáiyát of Omar Khayyám, a great philosopher, astronomer, and mathematician of 12th century Persia.

    These few words capture the very essence of the matter at hand, that there is no good reason to believe in the Islamic deity, that there is no good reason to believe in the inerrancy of Islamic scripture, and there is therefore no good reason to believe in Islam at all. If you have some evidence to the contrary, I invite you to share it with us all.
     
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    I don't believe in any religious Gods, but I do believe that religion can be good for some people.
     
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    I think Sam Harris made a good point when he posed the following scenario. Suppose somebody said that their life was given meaning by their knowledge that they would one day marry Angelina Jolie. When questioned about how they know this, they simply say "I just know." They said that because of this knowledge, they have started being kinder to others, have started doing volunteer work to impress her, etc. What do we say to this person? Do we simply go along with it because it seems to help them, or should we try to deal with it, since it is clearly a symptom of some underlying condition that quite possibly might be quite dangerous? I ask this same question to you in regard to religion, should we allow it simply because some people feel it gives their lives meaning, or should we oppose it because it is a tool used to oppress minorities and indoctrinate children?

    It seems that the original poster plagiarized his post from here (which itself is a mirror of the original article, located here), as he quite clearly lacks the intellectual capacity to make a reasoned argument in favor of Islam. Just for the sake of humor, though, I think I'll look at the best arguments for the validity of Islam from this site.

    Article 1: The Earth's Atmosphere
    Two verses are quoted from the Quran that the author claims convey scientific knowledge; the first one says that the sky returns, and the second that the sky acts as a ceiling. They try to use the ambiguity of the first phrase to include all sorts of different things that the sky returns, though if we look at several different translations of this verse it is very clear what is being mentioned -- rain (see here and here). It's not too surprising that somebody mentions the rain, though it would have been a bit more impressive had he actually mentioned the water cycle that causes it to rain. The next verse merely speaks to the falsity of the entire book; the sky is not a ceiling in any way at all, we have flown to the moon, flown ships to the other planets of our solar system, launched many artificial satellites, etc. Even a young child today knows that the sky is not a barrier to pass, but is merely the endless void of space, extending innumerable distances in all directions.

    Article 2: The Quran on Human Embryonic Development
    The passage of the Quran quoted is as follows (in its larger context and from a different translation):
    Well, the word leech is translated "little lump," so any comparison between the two is gone (I'd also like to point out that human embryos and fetuses NEVER have the mother's blood in their system, as such could lead to clotting; this is also why people infected with HIV are able to deliver babies that are not). The chapter goes on to state, however, that we will one day be resurrected (I imagine this would be quite a difficult feat given that our bodies are recycled and could quite easily become the part of another person); and it also says that god gave us the cattle so that we could drink their milk. This is a curious claim, since our tolerance for lactose is an evolved ability that came only after we began raising cattle (we normally lose the ability to digest the sugar because we had no use for it after being breastfed). The many lactose-intolerant people stand to show the falsity of this claim, as they simply are not able to digest it.

    Anybody have any better evidence for the veracity of Islam?
     
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    I was referring to them having no English on thier shop signs. Not their beliefs, they can keep them. I worked with Lebs an Arabs for over 9 months and once you get to know them they are quite useful and resourceful as they all HELP each other. Once your in the loop you can get rego checks done over the phone for free.

    Australia is a multi cultural country, belive what you want to believe just don't go trying to convert me everytime I see you.
     
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    That's a very valid scenario. I don't think anyone would deny that historically religion was the cause of much suffering. Religion can be dangerous, but it can also be beneficial (especially in more civilized societys). If I saw ones religion improved that person I wouldn't try to disprove their faith.
     
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    they choose to be muslims... simple as that. I myself, christian, and i can tell you that it doesn't matter for most people what exact religion they represent since most religions are the same, the most important rules in most religions are you shall not kill, you shall not hurt and those kinds of things (being a good person) so i dont see why some people think that people converting to islam is a problem.
     
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    Because they choose to live in ignorance than face reality.
    The morals religion teaches are common even with non-theists, and even so there are religions out there that preach other things such as murder and genocide, these religions view these as "good" acts so why shouldn't we be encouraging these as well?
     
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    Islam does not preach that, so your argument is invalid.
     
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    The hadith commands Muslims to kill unbelievers, and the Armenian genocide during WWI is a prime example of religiously-inspired Islamic genocide.
     
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