Selling passwords rather than accounts

So recently I sold $245 worth of gp to someone and the smart-ass decided to dispute the charge as unauthorized -_-, so while I was talking to Paypal in order to get this straightened out, towards the end of the call, the representative at Paypal had recommended that (for the future) whenever selling accounts or something that requires a password (so this does not apply to GP), that I sell a "password" for the account rather than the character. He said if I sell a "password" then ship them a piece of paper with the password / info of the account written on it, it would be considered a tangible item and that way scammers would not be able to dispute the transaction since I could provide a tracking number etc to prove that I had given what the person had paid for.

Thoughts on this?

 

It's an interesting idea. It would take much longer for the trade to happen though.

 

Yeah I realized the trade would take longer but imo I think it would be a much safer alternative, I'm not saying that everyone that sells accounts should be forced to use this method though.

 

Okay, so if people are paying first while you are shipping the item, how do they know you have shipped the item?

 

you give them a tracking number within 24 hours, if none if given then they can simply dispute it since for virtual items the buyer will win 99.9% of the time (or so paypal tells me)

 

Definitely a good idea. If the trade is large enough I think this would be worth it. What a helpful PayPal representative you got there lol.

 

You should have asked if it can be sent Virtually, and providing proof like screenshots and what not.

 

I remember seeing on eBay years ago in the runescape section, "selling a joke with a lvl 126 main" or something similar .. Never knew why until now lol.

 

I did, he told me no, he said it HAS TO be a physical item that can be shipped, received, and tracked.

eidt: and @ aus aaz, the whole joke thing was because selling accounts is against jagex's ToS so this was a way for sellers to get around having their bids being closed due to claims by jagex.

 

this is a heaps good idea, however it'll just slow down trades heaps.

 

this is very true, I guess it is the drawback of wanting a safe transaction =/

 

Yeah this concept has been around for quite a long time, the only thing about it is that it is very inconvenient. Obviously it takes multiple days for the shipping of the information, plus even if you get charged back you have to go through a long process regardless and I believe it is still possible for the buyer to win because paypal is usually in favor of the buyer. So although there is a better chance of you winning the dispute you still have to deal with the customer support / resolution center.

Bottom line is that it is just much more ideal to trade with RSGP or safer payment methods. Paypal is too much trouble.

 

100% agree. I had the same conversation with a rep the other day.

 

Also you will have to give up personal details such as home address an that lol.

 

This. Not to mention when people usually buy accounts, most of the time they want it right away, its like children with toys once its purchased they have to play with them right away. There is never going to be a safe way to buy an account. Even if you buy from a trusted user there is always a chance down the road he/she becomes corrupt and recovers the account later which is worse then getting it recovered early since you put so much time and effort into the account already. Its much better to bot an account from scratch then buying one. Yes attaching a note to a physical item will help your odds, but in the end you're still most likely still going to get fucked over.

OT. ejjiman1 is awesome

 

That was actually because your not allowed to sell runescape stuff, so if you said selling an account your listing would get removed almost instantly

 

there is no way to proof the pw you sent him is even the right one.

 

You realize you can still give them the password virtually as well as physically lol

great idea

 

You could simply trade like normal, but just put it as physical goods, and ship them an empty box so you have a tracking number in case they dispute.

With that being said, wouldn't this method of mailing them the password be an easy way to scam someone, considering you could show the tracking number, but you could easily send them the incorrect password or simply nothing at all.

 

this I left this part out haha, you complete the transaction online but you send the item physically just for proof purposes, that way the buyer wont have to wait etc