Osama's death was not justified

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Osama's death was not justified
  1. Unread #141 - Jun 2, 2011 at 5:22 AM
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    Osama's death was not justified

    He didn't die then, he died ages ago. He had diabetes, kidney problems etc he died in 2001. It's weird how Obama says he finally killed him when the Americans were sick I'd him and all the elections coming up etc.

    Before this story, Obamas popularity was 24% now its 87....
     
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    Osama's death was not justified

    The SEALs didn't kill him.... isn't in funny how they didn't bury him but dropped him in the sea. Isn't it funny how Obama bombs the Muslim countries, takes over the Muslim cities rich of oil...
     
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    Osama's death was not justified

    I think killing osama was a stupid idea ,becouse the last big job of terrorist was in 2011 and after the dead of osama i think they planing a new bigger job.And targeted killing isnt allowed.if they made a trial it would be way better people in europe dont believe at osamas dead becouse they´re no picture etc.


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    I always thought that osama was a fiction of America ( or Bush) to have a reason to start war with Irak.
    Americans hate all Muslims becouse they think they all like osama.So if they start thinking right the war will end soon.



    *sorry for my bad english :(
     
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    Osama's death was not justified

    They also don't think he was dead because he wasn't buried but dropped in the sea...Wtf

    Everyone deserves to be buried.
     
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    Osama's death was not justified

    The Americans shouldn't have killed him but should have given him a fair trial even though he was responsible for the 9/11.

    Why?

    Adolf Eichmann, one of the main organizers of the Holocaust was given a fair trial after more than 6 million Jews alone were killed and many more during the war. Why should Osama who was responsible for the death of only 3,000 people not be given a fair trial?
     
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    Osama's death was not justified

    An outstanding point, I would love an explanation as to why he wasn't given a trial.
     
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    Osama's death was not justified

    Obama had lead his army into Muslim cities and killed them, kills the Muslims in oil rich cities and takes the oil. Shouldn't he die so he doesn't cause anymore harm?
     
  15. Unread #148 - Jun 4, 2011 at 11:49 PM
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    Osama's death was not justified

    Osama hurt US- US Kills Osama. Think of it as self defense.
     
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    Osama's death was not justified

    Source?...
     
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    Osama's death was not justified

    SEALs did kill him. They didn't bury him because they didn't want to give him a shrine, a place to worship him.
     
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    Osama's death was not justified

    Sources? Also: You said he died in 2001 and you seemed to imply it was due to health problems. That contradicts you questioning why he did not get a fair trial. I sense a troll, so either back up what you say or get out.
     
  23. Unread #152 - Jun 5, 2011 at 5:16 PM
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    Osama's death was not justified

    I'm pretty sure he is just stating "theories", not solid facts. As I remember, back then people thought he was dead or killed until some tape showed up with Osama teasing the American government. Maybe what rstrader meant was that he was actually killed and the tape was fake & also Osama's real or "real" death were fake as well.


    Although I'm against Obama's decision to kill him without a "fair trial", that's what big countries do. If Israel were a big state with millions of Jews (currently only 7 million in Israel and another 7 around the world), I bet it would have been different.

    Big countries feel they have the right to kill and to judge according to how they see things as no one will come up and say they are wrong - unless they want to be their next target. ~ Look at Syria. Assad killing thousands of people and no country willing to go against them as it will most probably bring commotion in the Arabic world.

    As RStrader stated in one of his posts, the only reason NATO decided to attack Egypt's dictator's lancers was for the oil... (Once again, this is just a theory which is most probably right since they haven't attacked Syria nor Yemen while both countries have the same problem)

    In conclusion, that's our world. If you're big and have a lot of power you have the "right" to spare a trial and to kill the murderer. On the other hand, if you're a small country, if you do kill the murderer, the whole world will come against you.
     
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    Osama's death was not justified

    He is just sick man he used his wife to save himself
    and they found stacks of porn in his room :|
     
  27. Unread #154 - Jun 5, 2011 at 6:38 PM
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    Osama's death was not justified

    no proof = no evidence. All we are all doing is relying on the media for information... the media is corrupted they will say anything or twist any story just to make good news... you dont have to be a genius to know this.
     
  29. Unread #155 - Jun 5, 2011 at 8:35 PM
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    Osama's death was not justified

    Why didn't he get a fair trial?

    SEALs go into the compound, are firstly threatened by a armed body guard, and have no clue what to expect.

    They see Osama and ask him to surrender and he is not willing to. You choose what you would do, now remember this is real life and he is the most wanted terrorist in the world, this is not over the internet one wrong move could end your life.

     
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    Osama's death was not justified

    And the Americans couldn't do that to Osama?

    Take for example what Obama said after "capturing"/killing Osama and then look at what David Ben Gurion said:

    Obama - "Justice has been done"

    Ben Gurion - "Adolf will be held in trial for..."
    He never said whether justice will be done or not as that's not him to decide.

    Obama took the position of a judge and decided that "Justice has been done" instead of letting someone with the knowledge or experience to decide.

    And to just strengthen what I said earlier, after Adolf was brought to Israel the Argentina Government were very mad and even wanted the UN Council to intervene.
    So in Israel's case with adolf, they gave him a trial and countries all over the world were still mad. ~ as it's not right for a small country to act against the murderers of their people. But for a big country like America it's ok, especially for their president to act like a judge.
     
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    Osama's death was not justified

    Your not getting the point, the way he was captured was much different.Its all in the spur of the moment. It is just the way that it had happened. I doubt there original plan was to just kill him.

    And what do you think Obama would say? Maybe he should try to resurrect him if that would make you happy.

    And in a way Osama was given a ultimatum to either surrender which would lead to a fair trial or face death. When asked this he said he would not surrender and therefore shot.
     
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    Osama's death was not justified

    They brought real guns. Not shock guns nor any other paralyzing method. Their main intentions obviously were to kill him.

    Osama is one out of a group of terrorists. If he kills him, it does not mean he killed terror. In other words, by killing Osama, he didn't achieve anything but "revenge" and his so called "justice". Osama was one of the most wanted people in the world in the past few years, any country leader with a lot of arrogance would want to catch him for just the pride of catching one of the most wanted people in the world and killing them.

    They could have shocked/temporarily paralyzed him and kidnapped him onto their helicopters. Instead, they chose to kill him.
    Technology developed so much since the capturing of Adolf Eichmann and I'm sure there was a way to spread sleeping powder over the place beforehand.
     
  37. Unread #159 - Jun 7, 2011 at 6:42 PM
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    Osama's death was not justified

    Sources on the first part, because just because you think they went to kill him doesn't make it true.

    Osama is their leader and he was WANTED, and of course they went after him its just common sense. Why would we want him to be there when we can potentially capture him, which we know ended up in his death due to his own ignorance.

    Yes they could but he is the MOST WANTED TERRORIST <---- this fact alone gives them the right to use real guns and not stun guns, and they gave him the right to surrender and if he doesn't want to face trial, more power to the SEALs to kill him on the spot.
     
  39. Unread #160 - Jun 8, 2011 at 3:18 PM
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    Osama's death was not justified

    Excuse me? They killed him. I'll need sources from you that they DIDN'T want to kill him in the first place.

    Own ignorance? Every wanted man would try to shoot the people who try to capture him. If their plan wasn't to kill him in the first place, they wouldn't plan to enter the building without scattering some powder over or spraying within the building. There are even clips of him going out on hikes. Why didn't they wait for him to go on another hike and then capture him when he is unarmed? That's because they didn't care if they hurt him, killed him or whatever.

    One more thing, America has 300 million residents. That's not even a tenth of the world's population. He was the "MOST WANTED" man in America, not in the world. Just because they are a big country it suddenly gives them the right to kill their "MOST WANTED". (That's how they feel)

    Not to mention that Obama is starting to get on the nerves of other presidents as he feels like a king. Interferes in other countries and causes propaganda. That I call arrogance. One of the "effects" of an arrogant leader is the "right to do anything in the world". Killing the "MOST WANTED" man in America is one of them while every other smaller country wouldn't even dare to kill such a guy before a fair trial.
     
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