People With Pardoned DNT

OsrsSkillz · May 10, 2025 at 12:47 PM

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There have been many suggestions over the years that had altruistic intentions. This is one of those. I respect and appreciate the idea, but don't support it. There's just no world where it would ever make sense to implement, for a dozen reasons.

I am a good personal example of why this suggestion would be unfair and in my opinion, a bad idea.

I've been on Sythe for over 18 years - more than half of my lifetime. I've spent a significant amount of time on the CDT team, and was leader for more than two years. I’ve invested heavily into the community over the years. Despite never running a video game related business, I have 200+ quality vouches and have been an active community member for almost two decades. I've sold dozens of accounts and have traded tens, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of goods and services without any issue.

Five or six years ago, I received a DNT and ban for offsite blackhat activity. I made a mistake, but it was largely a misunderstanding. I resolved the issue and after a few months I appealed and was pardoned.

Respectfully, I feel it's a fair point to make that I’ve proven my trustworthiness in many ways, and that I’m far more trustworthy than most, including you (2015 join date, 43 posts, zero vouches). However, your suggestion would likely cause me to have a "permanent TWC styled blackmark" on my profile. This could easily create an artificial sense of distrust towards me and other users who have spent tremendous time building their reputation, or an artificially inflated sense of trust towards newer members who don't have "the mark" but have ill intentions.

There are even current and/or ex-staff members that would receive that "TWC styled blackmark."

The staff team does not take DNT appeals lightly. Each case is reviewed with serious contemplation of the consequences and outcomes that could arise by pardoning a user. Many users take 5-10+ appeals over the course of years to receive a pardon. Others never get their pardon.

I do not believe your suggestion would do any good in prevent scams, rather, it would hurt those who want to do the right thing.
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Well said! and you wouldn't of derseved that as you've done alot of good on sythe then harm, You are the perfect example as to why the Pardoning system works very well, Good people get unbanned after one mistake and the dickheads stay banned, This Suggestion should be closed as I think this is the Perfect answer.

Phantom_X · May 10, 2025 at 8:04 PM

You can already do your research by googling a UID or putting it into the site. Previous disputes pop up with title Resolved that you can read (if they pardoned)

Pikachu · May 10, 2025 at 11:26 PM

This will not be happening. There have been multiple suggestions in the past for same thing or similar which have been denied in past which is main reason for denying it

but to give you an idea of reasons for denying:

Pardons are meant to offer a clean slate.

Discouraging users from requesting pardons often leads them to evade bans, which means they don't get a proper chance at redemption, and staff can't monitor them effectively.

If this were implemented, staff would have to go through thousands of users to apply it retroactively, if not more.

These are some of the reasons others have given.

Thank you for the suggestion, though.

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