Other Life.

Do you believe in other life, outside of what's on Earth? Aliens..extraterrestrial life forms?

Personally, I'm on the fence. I find myself believing when I see videos about UFOs and such, but then I become a skeptic when I think about Area 51. I'm just not sure.

What do you think?

 

I think that there HAS to be other life outside of Earth. Right now, our minds and sight, and hearing just CANNOT notice and appreciate the signs around us. I don't believe in "Flying Saucers", as I believe they would come in a satellite-like object. And, I also become a skeptic when I think of Area 51.

 

Yeah, if we're less than 1% of the universe then there has to be other life forms.

It's ignorant to think we're the only life form alive

 

Why become a skeptic when you think of area 51? If anything that would increase my suspicion. Knowing that there's something they're hiding. They obviously be hiding it from us for a reason because there's no point in hiding something people already know about and have seen. What else could it be?

I believe in extraterrestrials. I believe our planet has been visited numerous times. I believe certain officials have conspired with the aliens exchanging their technology for the opportunity to "abduct" a specified number of humans for testing.

UHMM..
I just read this article and yea, It's pretty freaky. I believe it though because what else is there to believe? Don't just skim through it if you link to it, actually read it, otherwise it will seem insane.

 

Area 51 makes me skeptical because it's just a military flight place with most likely nothing to hide. It's quite obvious its so secret because its MILITARY secrets...Where theyre testing new crafts, and technology. I think it's just rumors that start that.

 

Why would we need to conspire with aliens? They have obviously came from light years away so they don't really have to give us anything. Also why isn't a normal everyday human abducted? it always appears to be some pot-smoking headcase....

 

I watched a long Area 51 documentary. It just seemed to be a bunch of BS and rumors.

 

Personally I don't believe in all that shit.

 

I believe theres something smarter and stronger than us...possibly in another galaxy. Humans are incredibly full of themselves to believe that were alone in this immense universe.

 

Yes.

I put it down to one thing, aside from all the conspiracy theories of government cover ups.

Our sun is 1 star.
There are 100 BILLION stars (NOT PLANETS) in our Galaxy.
There are over 1 billion Galaxies in our Universe.

1 Billion x 100 Billion x (lets say 2 planets per star) = 2,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Planets.

Earth is one planet.

Do the math, are we that isolated?

 

Yeah, I wonder if there is some sort of 'Internet' like mmm.sythe.org instead of www. and their talking about this too!

I believe in life on another planet and one day, it will be interesting to meet. Unless America go in and blow them all up for 'Peace keeping'

 

Stephen Hawkings stated that he believes in Extraterrestrial life and that when they contact our planet it will be much like the Europeans coming to the Americas. Our world will be the Indians

 

Warning, long ass post ahead.

There were topics about Area 51 & Roswell in General Discussion / Off-Topic not that long ago and apparently my posts have been deleted (I was going to copy and paste) not sure why but whatevs, I'll retype it. I do want to forewarn that I am in no way condemning alien life. Read on.

Aliens have NOT visited the Earth.. or at least we have NEVER captured them.. but most likely we haven't had any visitors. When you think of the unimaginably large distances an alien civilization would have to travel to make it to Earth, it becomes obvious.. but before we get to that, let me give you some figures.

• Light travels at 186,000 miles PER SECOND in a vacuum (~300,000 km/s)
• Light speed is the ultimate universal speed limit, you can not go faster than light no matter how much you try. In fact, actual light speed itself is at the very least an improbability in and of itself, because it requires an infinite amount of energy to move anything with mass at the speed of light

Now, our universe is about 14 BILLION light years across. A light year for anyone who is unaware is a measure of distance equating to the distance light travels in one year. That's one entire year of traveling at 186,000 miles PER SECOND. That's a pretty damn big distance. Life in our universe is most definitely out there. There's almost no denying that when you think about the sheer mathematical odds.. hell, there could even be life in our own solar system (extremophials (sp), definitely nothing advanced obviously).. but the time it takes for a civilization to sufficiently advance in order to make the long haul here is just a huge improbability. Life on Earth has been evolving for roughly 3.6 billion years, and how far have we come really? We're not even on Michio Kaku's universal civilization scale.

There's 3 types of civilizations:

• Type 1 - planetary, meaning it controls many/all of the planetary processes
• Type 2 - solar, able to harness the power of their parent star/neighboring planets
• Type 3 - interstellar/multistellar, meaning it can control multiple star systems and eventually the entire parent galaxy

What do we rank as? Type 0, we can't do any of the above.. and we've had 3.6 billion years to evolve. Granted there have been some bumps along the way, but even assuming that we had started out fresh with no interruptions along the way, the civilization would have to be MILLIONS times more advanced than us. Billions of years of uninterrupted evolution.. it's just NOT likely, and while I'm sure there are some pretty advanced civilizations out there, the idea that they would be close enough to us to make any sort of trip here, even at light speed, is even more improbable.

Furthermore, what would a civilization that much more advanced have to gain by paying us a visit? Additionally, let's assume for whatever reason they do decide to come to Earth. If we are billions of years behind these aliens and are already developing cloaking technology do you really think that they would not also possess this technology? Why would the openly expose themselves to us if we're obviously hostile? Also I'd like to point out that if a ship/civilization is advanced enough to make the long haul here, it is advanced enough to withstand anything we could throw at it and surely would not crash and give us the opportunity to reverse engineer it. I'm not saying these things would be impossible to kill, but it'd be like cavemen going up against an armored tank of modern day. They can try all they want, but there would be nothing in their arsenal capable of taking it out. Then let's assume that somehow we DID manage to capture an alien ship with an alien on board and did do tests and shit on it like Area 51 theorists claim. Would this not be seen as an act of war? Do I need to reiterate the vast advantages they would have over us? They would probably be capable of Star Wars type Death Star attacks, annihilating entire planets, maybe even on a grander scale if they really wanted to.

I know the point of the thread wasn't Area 51, but I thought it would be pertinent to touch on seeing as a lot of you have misconstrued Area 51. I'd also like to point out once again that I do embrace alien life as a fact. I have no doubt in my mind it is out there.. but we have almost certainly not encountered it. When I posted this last time a lot of people seemed to think I was saying alien life was an impossibility.

 

To reinforce your point/correct a couple mistakes:

• We are really unable to see exactly how many stars are in our own galaxy, but it's something like 300-400 billion, which is a pretty good average for most galaxies.
• There are trillions of galaxies just in the observable univserse
• Light has only had ~14 billion years to travel here since the big bang, we seem what is most likely a very very tiny fraction (millionths of a percent, possibly infinite) of the big picture

 

No.

My reasoning is that we haven't seen any alien life yet. It's because humans want aliens to exist that they believe in it. They think everyday life would be more interesting if they were to visit us. Personally, I won't believe in anything until I've seen it for myself.

 

Yes of course their is other life forms. I do not see how one can argue otherwise. Space is infinite.

Period

 

No one can know for sure, just what people think is most likely. We've discovered so many planets and galaxies though, not one looks like it could support life.

 

You could take this stance, however it would be incorrect to a point, as we've discovered an innumerable number of planets that are within the habitable zone for water to exist in liquid form. Furthering that, I've seen articles and documentaries where they have found planets that appear to fit the prerequisites for harboring life.

However, regardless, we actually haven't looked at many planets that way.

Let's say it takes a minimum of 1 day to fully investigate whether a planet has a hospitable environment for life.
Let's say 5 scientific bodies do this daily, so 5 planets get investigated daily.

Let's say this has happened for a total of 40 years.

That's 73,000 planets they have investigated.

Only Billions more to go.

 

You can't expect life to be commonplace in the universe. Our telescopes haven't advanced enough to truly investigate these planets we've found so far. Our measurements etc are guesstimates at best when trying to figure anything out about planets outside of our solar system. We haven't ruled out entire galaxies as not supporting life either, I don't know where you got that from and it somehow makes me doubt you fully understand how big a galaxy is. Our galaxy alone is 100,000 light years across, with ~300-400 billion stars. That's pretty good odds that at least one other place out there is harboring life, right inside our own galaxy. Couple that with the fact there's trillions of galaxies with a similar amount of stars, and you tell me if you really think we're alone lol.

 

Less than 0.000000000000000000000001, I'm telling you.