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  1. Unread #21 - May 13, 2011 at 9:39 PM
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    yet you didn't bring up a single coherent reason from that supposed list while bashing others that could actually back up their opinions
     
  3. Unread #22 - May 13, 2011 at 9:41 PM
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    LOL. read through the thread and show me anyone who backed up their opinions. the only people who did advocate the legalization. hahah lol. failure
     
  5. Unread #23 - May 13, 2011 at 9:47 PM
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    your incompetency shines through again
    you clearly state that people are idiots because they don't advocate the legalization of all drugs where as people were clearly posting about how some drugs should be legalized while others shouldn't

    come on now i'm sure a self proclaimed intelligent person who is also a psychology major can figure out that a debate doesn't have only 2 facets
     
  7. Unread #24 - May 13, 2011 at 9:53 PM
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    well, to be clear.
    marijuana should be legalized hands down. thats just fact. and could be supported with plenty of thorough research.
    the fact that the rest should be legalized is just my opinion...especially since our nation preaches freedom. thats all

    edit: yeah also i know i used aggressive language somewhat but i am just defensive of this topic. i also realized my emotion and interpreted it on the spot. i knew i probably shouldnt say it like that, but i did because i was expressing emotion, obviously the wrong thing to do.
     
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    first marijuana is addicting and, that what all addicts say, i can quit any-time.
     
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    Weed is about to be legal in Mississippi; I'm only 20 minutes away too. SCORE.
    But anyways; I really wouldn't care yo.. I already do drugs, mostly pot, pills and syrup.
    I've tried almost everything but heroine and meth.. that's just dumb.
    Criticize me for what this post says.. idgaf.
     
  13. Unread #27 - May 14, 2011 at 12:31 AM
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    thats funny. where are your facts?

    first of all i just quit 2 weeks ago to get a job for summer. had no problems and been smokin daily for years lol.

    u would have no idea because you have never done it. meanwhile you swallow everything the media/government tells you and are a drone to society.

    and nothing you say is a valid reason why it should be illegal.

    coffee is more addictive than marijuana. needless to say alcohol, nicotine, etc.

    grow some brain cells please.

    your an idiot and you breathe oxygen, but you dont see people going around saying oxygen is making you stupid.

    but thats what people are doing with weed.

    weed doesnt make people look/be stupid. stupid people make weed look stupid.
     
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    Marijuana (or more correctly named, Hemp) is an incredibly useful plant, regardless of whether or not it is used for recreational purposes. The fibres in the plant are far better for making paper and clothing than wood from trees and so on, the seeds contain an incredible amount of important nutrients, the plant itself has some very useful oils that may be harvested, and the list goes on.

    People only look at Marijuana for the recreational aspect though. I'm not against its recreational use - when I've used it prior I've absolutely loved it - but I don't think people realise just how much it could help an economy if it were properly industrialised.

    As for other drugs, and I kind of had to wonder about one of the previous posters, LSD is bad in extended use but in small infrequent doses not so much so. Taking it builds up a tolerance which essentially serves against addiction. Extended use however, can leave you like Sid Barrett for example, who was batshit crazy towards the end of his life.

    As for heroin, the drug should never be legalised. Diacetylmorphine is twice as addictive as regular morphine, and twice as deadly. I've had a friend who was addicted to it, and it practically ruined her life. She got in to it out of despair for a personal situation and some comfort, and to be honest legalising it would probably lead to more causes of such a case. Thankfully she got off it before it harmed her too much, but it was hell trying to deal with it all before she went to rehab.

    As for other drugs, it's too hard to directly classify them as 'good' or 'bad'. There are just too many. For some, it's very obvious that they are very bad for you, and for others there's not enough research done. I don't think you can just put a blanket over it and say "this should be legal, but this shouldn't" without proper research in to what it is you're trying to ban or legalise. I DO maintain that while alcohol and tobacco are legal, cannabis should be as well, but to be honest I can't see it happening any time soon.

    Then again, it's hard to tell. Look at what's happening in Canada.
     
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    legalize only marijuana.
     
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    Legalize weed, definitely. It's more helpful than harmful. I mean really they shouldn't be allowed to tell us what we can't put in our body, but i can understand if they legalized all those hard-drugs but still cracked down on driving and etc while on them. I can do anything on weed, better actually.

    It's not a drug, it's a life style...
     
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    Being restricted from doing drugs is a direct violation of ones freedom. There's no reason something should be illegal if it doesn't hurt other people.
     
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    Do I agree with the legalization of all drugs? Yes.
    Why? You want contribute to your already tarnished life? Be my guest.

    That being said, talking about addiction, everything has the potential to be addictive, and all of which are entirely subjective upon the individual. So you cannot base your claims that Marijuana isn't addictive and therefore should be legalized, but Heroin is and therefore it shouldn't.

    I personally think that businesses should be responsible for distributing drugs, simply because of one reason. YOU MUST PAY UP FRONT TO GET YOUR DRUGS. Dealers will sometimes give you it on your word that you'll repay, and when you don't they'll beat you up. Having a business regulate it is a way to minimize drug usage itself.

    Now, you want to OD on your drugs? Fine by me, go pay for a doctor to heal you. Don't you dare waste resources on your pathetic life, do what you want but be accountable for your own actions, don't rely on other peoples backs to support your fads.

    In essence:

    You want to buy hard drugs? Fine, I don't care, just pay for it all up front.
    You want to OD? Fine, I don't care, just pay your doctors bill.

    If you can do both, I really don't care it's your life not mine, I'm in no position to tell you how you should live your life.

    However if you can't satisfy the first caveat, then you shouldn't be allowed to purchase hard drugs, go make it yourself.

    If you can't satisfy the second caveat, then I'll pay for your funeral.

    TL;DR - Yes legalize drugs, but you need to completely reform the whole system on which it's currently based upon.
     
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    A very good post indeed. Hemp was made legal again in America during the 2nd world war, as it is a great fibre for things such as ropes etc. Also, hemp, which is the male version of the plant barely contains enough THC/cannaboids to get high. The amount you'd have to smoke would be stupidly high, and you'd be far better off drinking alcohol if you're that desperate for a buzz. I wholey support the use of hemp within the use of industry, as it is a very versatile plant which can grow in alot of places (hence the name weed).

    Now, on to the subject of weed being legalised for recreational purposes. Now, i am from the UK, and the UK's drug classification laws are frankly retarded. Ketamine, which is horse tranquilizer, is a class C drug. You will get off with a warning if caught with a class C drug. Marijuana on the other hand, is a class B drug. Despite evidence from government bodies in the UK, who told the government it should once again be downgraded to a class C (see: professor Nutt), they have ignored this and it remains a B. A class B drug means you can be imprisoned purely for posession. Although this is unlikely, and will only happen if you're a repeat offender and they want an excuse to imprison you. However, it is now alot more likely to go on your criminal record.

    Professor Nutt, ( previous chairman ofAdvisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs (ACMD)), when questioned about the most harmful effects of marijuana on users in todays society, responded with something to the effect of

    "The biggest harm to the user in the UK today is getting a criminal record".

    When governments base their drug classification laws not on the harm to the user, but to use it for political gain, there is clearly something wrong.

    I personally believe the government should tax and regulate the sale of marijuana for 2 reasons. 1) "The gateway theory". This is the theory that if you try weed, you'll then go on to harder drugs etc. Now, in my personal experience this is true. I have tried other drugs after trying marijuana. This however, is not because i'm looking for a "Stronger buzz", but simply because i had access to them. If the government was to regulate it, teenagers etc would never have to come across dealers, and then move on to other drugs.

    2) It can generate money for the economy. And in a time of recession, that's exactly what we need.

    :)
     
  27. Unread #34 - May 14, 2011 at 4:13 PM
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    well said, i agree for the most part
     
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