"I've pmed you."

Well if that is the case then the user should think of something more constructive and helpful to post rather then posting something pointless and unproductive. The bottom line is that, well.. it is pointless!

 

Hmmm... This is a rather tough topic. On one hand Mods shouldnt have to deal with 500 of these a day...

On the other, these post's are in essense spam.

What do...

Ima have to Support.

 

It seems like a pretty grey area to give infractions out for, but it still is essentially spam.

Support.

 

I say this Is ridicalaus, there already Is to many rules going on like this, and yet make a new rule concerning this? Stop infracting people ffs, instead warn them?
After this rule Is made gl handing out 5000 people infractions

 

Agree and disagree.

50% of sellers request people to post on their threads when transacting. Technically saying 'i've pmed you' is that post. However, there is no way to really check if the seller requested it.

IMO; its fine the way it is, you can tell if certain people are spamming by the time frame the post in and the similarity of their posts. I.E spamming 30 threads in a row with "i've pmed you"; when each thread varies in price range for w/e they are buying.

 

It obviously is not a matter that would have to be the mod's number one priority, however what I am suggestion is not to make a new rule. But rather include this into a pre-existing rule. It is essentially spam, and people already do get infraction for it. I am trying to bring attention to the fact that this is spam and shouldn't really be ignored.

and edit

Yea you can tell by how often and what people are posting. I think I could also rephrase this to mean that sellers shouldn't require people to post on their thread if they have already received a private message from that person. There would be no reason for someone to repeat the same thing in a post that they just sent in a private message.

 

It's not pointless. Narrow-minded.

Firstly, if they are aiming to raise their post counts, they will be caught in no time. There are some people that actually report these posts when they notice.

Secondly, if that person's post is legitimate, and he really is interested, chances are he'll contact the OP and start with the trade. If the interested party does happen to scam, his post in the OP's thread can be used as additional proof in his scam report, since even deleted posts can be seen by mods/admins.

Also, there really isn't anything "helpful" that can be posted in an account selling thread. What are you gonna say? "Nice account," or "You forgot a picture,"? Such things can also be said through a PM.

 

I was not aware mods/admins could view edited or deleted posts so I see what you mean by this.

I always assumed that mods could view deleted posts but not edited posts. So I figured there was no evidence if someone were to edit a post, thus a private message would be better evidence in case of a scam.

Secondly I was not referring to solely account selling threads, rather selling threads in general. To be honest, I see no problem if someone chooses ask questions about the trade in the thread. Such as would you be willing to sell for _, Do you accept _ as payment, I am interested add my msn address _. However if people chose to say those same messages to people in private messages then they should not post again in the thread just to say they messaged them.

 

I often PM and comment on the individual threads since they may think an 'imposter' added them

I often barely check my inbox, I'd rather go refresh my page 10 times to see who i have added.

But seriously..

If mods were to infract this, Im pretty sure 100+ people would be banned daily. For the past few days there was about 8 pages of scam reports and since Karl was kind enough he went through almost all of them.

Mods have lots of more important shit to do rather then look at people saying . ive added and pmd u .

No support.

 

I pm'd you what I think...


















Lol, Why are you trying to make rules that are only going to piss people off?

Who cares if some one posts "I pm'd You, let me no what you think" God, stop acting like a grampy old man and have some fucking fun...

 

More of a hassle. Easier to just link to the post than screenie the PM.

I think I would trust people that do more than people that don't. My reason being that scammers don't usually like to leave trails.

 

It is not a spam, unless the user did not PM'ed

 

I don't really support this :/. I was always told to POST and PM the person you are intending to trade with so that if the trade would happen to go bad, either one of you would have proof (i.e. screenshots/thread URL/etc.) I always have people post on my thread while I'm selling items/accounts too. It's just to make the transaction smoother, not to increase post counts or "spam" the thread or person.

But I do see where you come from when you say its spam, considering they do get a pop-up. Look where I'm coming from though ^^^

 

I have had to reiterate this point so many times on this thread, however I do not mind doing it again. For some reason people consider this a method to prevent scams. When making a scam report having evidence of a private message via screenshot is just as much evidence as a post on a thread. Having both is practically useless because they convey the same point. I see no problem if they wan't to private message you, but if they are going to post on the thread just to say they have pmed you then it is spam. If they were going to bother posting in the thread in the first place then why didn't they just say what they were going to do on the thread opposed to in a message? Again, as you can see, it is spam.

How do you figure? It is part of the definition of spamming. Short, unhelpful.

Obviously you have failed to read any other posts in this thread and you misunderstood the main point of my post. I am not trying to "make rules that are only going to piss people off". Actually if you decided to take a few more seconds to read everything out I am not trying to make a rule at all. I am trying to make it so that when someone pointless such as "I've pmed you" is posted on a thread that it be considered part of a rule that is already in place. Users will receive 1 infraction for the following:

* Spamming: (in general):
o Posting short, unhelpful comments (such as "cool", "nice acc," etc).
o Flooding a forum with replies for the sole purpose of increasing post count. This may also be a permanent forumban in certain forums, especially if deliberate.
o Posting comments with little to no relevance to the topic
o Bumping your thread more than once a day

As you can see from the rules in the red part, posting short unhelpful comments. This is already a rule but something short and unhelpful (Ive pmed you) is always overlooked as spam.

I find that hard to believe, that you ignore most of the messages you get send through private message. 10 page refreshes is a lot more work then 2 clicks to view a new message. So it is hard for me to see where you are coming for on that one...

I don't think you understand that an infraction is different from a ban. If you get 1 infraction you do not get banned. It is essentially a warning. And infractions are already given for spamming, so if you read some of my other posts you would know that I am just requesting that is considered spam, rather then overlooked.

Once again someone obviously has not taken a few extra seconds to read any other posts. If you had, you would know that I have also reiterated a few times that I was not suggesting that if this were to be considered spam, that it would be the mods #1 priority. If people click report this post, a mod will get to it eventually and the mod can choose from there what they will decide to take care of.

I guess you could say that, but I'm still skeptical about you saying mods / admins can view edited posts. I moderated an old vb message board and I have no recollection of being able to view edited posts. However things may of changed. So the scammers can easily edit their posts post scam.

For trusting people because they post that I don't really understand. That being because by private messaging you they are leaving an unchangeable and permanent trail.

 

His point is; several infractions leads to a ban.

Ask 'em if you do not believe.

I have the habit of cleaning out most of my PMs as soon as I've read them, and I believe that there are other people like me too. Some people might even have inbox spaces issues, and accidentally delete them for space. If they post, the trail will be public and easier to find.

One last thing. PMs can easily be faked by editing the HTML code and taking a screenie.

 

That's why there's the report a PM button.

 

Forgot that part. My point being that screenies of PMs are useless.

 

I currently do not support this.

In some cases, you may call it spam or a "free bump" but then again, usually the OP wants to have you post on the thread so they know for a fact that you're interested. I mean - I understand that if they say "Pm'd you" but actually didn't PM you, then that's just complete spam, but if they did PM you then that's different.

Maybe if they make their post a little more constructive other than "Pm'ed you" would be better.

 

Disagree. Some users say Post and PM, so they get double warnings and also to get more attention to their threads. Saying I've PM'd you generates competition in the markets getting users the best prices for their accounts ect.

 

I'm always getting sucha posts on my threads, the worst part is most of them are scammers.