How do you ACTUALLY prove someone recovered an account?

Alright, before anyone tells me to post in report a scammer section, no, none of my accounts have been recovered.

Just a general question; how do you actually prove it was recovered? Anyone can type your password incorrectly and give you the invalid login screen. You can also be keylogged/RAT'd and gotten hacked.
So, i'd like to see what you guys think is sufficient proof on reporting someone for a recovered account.

Not sure if this belongs here also. Sorry if it doesn't. Community general maybe? Feel free to move it.

 

I dont even think its possible really, if only . Anyone can enter an incorrect password.

 

You contact the seller before you make the scammer report and if he is ignoring you then request a mod to contact the user about the issue.

It's no coincidence if it is just your rs account hacked. If other information is taken then there is the possibility that you got keylogged etc.

 

I have no idea the only thing I can think of is showing a mod privately or something over team viewer a picture of the account info when you first bought it and then showing them the information not working. Other then that I have no clue what you would do.

 

What other information can possibly be taken lol, if it's your only rs account what more could they want? My msn is always logged in, it can't get hacked O:
Edit: Also, in like a years time, it's always possible for someone to recover an account. By then, there would be no sufficient proof.

 

There are several ways, however it's all really circumstantial.

Whenever someone recovers an account, they will generally try to re sell it.
If you can prove that they are selling the same 2 accounts, they will most likely be banned (as i wrongfully did).

Another way is to confront them about it asking them to help you recover it etc. If they oblige well then yay for you. If they get all nasty and say fuck you, your problem, then you can screenshot it and use it as evidence of their bad character.

Also when purchasing accounts I suggest asking questions such as, 'Are you the original owner?', 'Only you know the recovery details to this account?'. screenshot this as to establish that only you and him knew the accounts recovery information, so either you got hacked or he recovered it.


For the most part, if you have a legitimate account seller, they will try to help you recover your account back. There's no reason for them not to. If they don't, or say they can't well it's obvious something fishy is going on.

But even the mods dealing with the scam reports know that it is the hardest way to ban someone; proving that they recovered your account.

 

What if they don't sell it? Or they sell it on another website?
Also, like i wrote in my edit, what if it's in a years time? They don't have information on it anymore, etc. Then what?

 

Just the fact that you're reporting someone gives sythe enough reason to be suspicious. People don't go around reporting for no reason.

 

If someone is taking their business, like pepsi vs coke, pepsi will do anything to kick coke off the market. So will people, if someone is selling gold for $.50/m and someone else is selling $.45/m, the $.50/m will do anything to kick $.45/m out.

 

Ive actually discovered and banned people who tried to resell accounts up to like 6-8 months after selling it the first time. People slip up and do it quite often. Whever buying an account, make sure you ALWAYS go through that persons created threads and make sure nothing looks fishy.

Some people actually do, unfortunately. A trade doesnt go the way they want it to, and even though they werent scammed, theres people out there that file fake or incomplete reports to make the other person look bad.

 

Unfortunately the only way that I can think of to definitively prove an account was recovered is to recover it back and show proof of the last IP. Like someone said earlier, any legit seller should be happy to help you get the account back; if someone refuses it's a pretty good indication that they recovered.

 

99 percent of the time you will see it for sale on sythe again, usually asking for half of what you paid and also asking for fast transaction. Unless you bought from someone thats untrusted I wouldnt worry. I sold a 99 miner for 38 mil and could I recover it right now? Sure, will I? Not even if someone pmed me saying they will give me 200m for a 99 miner. Some people put greed over integrity, so if you bought from someone you trust have no worries!

 

Changing ip's isnt hard to do though.

 

There is virtually no way to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that an account was recovered. However, it is pretty easy to prove beyond a reasonable doubt by following the forms we have made in the Report a Scammer section. Basically, all we need you to do is prove (A) that you bought an account from the scammer, and (B) that you confronted him about the recovery and he has failed to be helpful. The only major flaw in this method is that a hacker can recover and clean an account and get away with it, but there isn't much incentive for hackers to do this. The vast majority of the people who sell and recover an account still plan on playing on it, they just want to make an extremely quick 100m.

There are only two ways to prove a recovery beyond a shadow of a doubt. Firstly, you can get the last logged IP, which is unlikely for two reasons: you either cannot login at all, or the person just logs in from a proxy. Any smart hacker uses proxies because it's incredibly idiotic to broadcast your IP address to someone who is going to rage hard andfind a free DDoS toolkit. The other way to prove it is a lot easier: find the person who bought it in the future and cross-reference the login names. I've banned some high-profile people for doing this. For example, CJMT905 was selling an account that had somewhat similar stats to an account I knew he sold from a few months prior. CJMT claimed to be selling a separate account from an IRL friend, but the login name in the MSN shots was exactly the same.

 

The thing with this though is that if someone gets their accounts scammed, they don't have the patience to wait a few months for them to get banned. They want them banned ASAP.

 

I had bought an account months ago which was recovered, the user I bought it from just ignored me after saying he didn't save the info on it. He's somewhat respected in the account selling community too, user 'altgamer.'

I couldn't prove he recovered the account as he sent the info in a .txt... so sad.

 

Typically it's a mistake on the seller's part that ends up getting them banned.

Edit: Meant to say seller's instead of buyer's

 

How a mistake on the buyers part?

 

Take a pic of the info, when you bought it.



If password no longer works, try to recover it.
If it succeeds, take a picture of the last login ip. Send that to a mod.

If the recovery fails, due to information, send the picture + the information (picture of the info being given to you) to a mod, and request a mod to recover it.
If failed, then boom.
Ban the person who sold the account to you for recovering/invalid information

 

If the account is recovered, and you confront him and ask for help and he does not help, it becomes apparent that he recovered it. If he for some reason 'can't recover', he's either bullshitting or gave you invalid info.. maybe even both. Either way, it should be enough proof to warrant a ban. You shouldn't be selling accounts that you can't recover, buyers need some sort of insurance.