What is the purpose of our existance?

I have been wondering about this question for a while now. We're born, grow up, get a job and then eventually die. What did you really accomplish during your life spand? Even if you were a great athlete or an astronaut and you do things that people call amazing what is the purpose? You just end up dieing in the end. Thoughts? Opinions?

 

This is where religion comes in, but I'm not one to argue / debate over it as I have my opinions and someone clearly isn't going to change their stance based on an online argument.

 

I was thinking the exact same thing.

We work for roughly most of our time here (If you're the average person)

I guess all I can say is enjoy it and make no regrets? Which really doesn't help at all.

 

The main purpose of a chairs existence is for humans to sit on.
The main purpose of a televisions existence is for humans to watch.

The main purpose of a humans existence is be a working member of society.

You dumb life down a lot. It's like saying all the moon voyage was, was a bit of tin flying to a rock.

 

Not going to lie, that was extremely subjective. If only it were that easy to answer the meaning of our existence..

What is your idea of a "working" member? The idea of what constitutes as normality in any society is subjective in itself and fully dependent on behavior.

 

It was supposed to be subjective.

A working member in society changes with society.

In medieval ages it could've been a knight, a commoner.
Now it could be a factory worker, an engineer, a doctor.

'Working member of society' is not supposed to be objective, the specifics of it are subjective, however the phrase itself is fixed.


Also note I said main/primary, there are secondary reasons and complementary reasons.

 

Which is not what at all what people are interested in. You don't base your arguments off of subjective ideology; not everyone thinks like you, facts is what is important.

Define society, you are basically defining the concept of culture, which is never static. Always changing, and culture is a constructed behavior. This has been widely known and accepted and proven for centuries now.

This is does not define our existence. These are merely roles determined by other humans who think they world should be this way, people work solely for the purpose of making money. If there was no such need for money, would they be working at all?

A chair has a purpose of existence because we know who created it. It was never there until some human thought of the idea of sitting on a wooden contraption that made it into something with a purpose. If the chair were there before man had created it, then we could merely be misinterpreting the use of cede chair.

This.. doesn't really make sense, so to save from misunderstanding I won't try to decipher it.

Would help if you elaborated a bit on these secondary reasons and their complementary points that back up these.

tl:dr: We did not create the first humans. Therefore we could merely be misrepresenting our purpose and fitting it with a constructed reality of what it "should" be like.

How can we know our purpose if we don't even know who/what created us to begin with? That is why this question is not so easily answered. Give me real examples if you disagree with this rational logic.

 

I gave my opinion which was what was requested.

I never disputed that society ever changing, what are you insinuating?

People do not always work for the sole purpose of making money, thats an assumption.

So if we don't know who created it then its existence would be without purpose?
Remember the word 'chair' is just a word that describes the shape of a common object.

I mean what entails as a working member of society is subjective, a working member of society could be a teacher, or a doctor. However the fact is you can use the term, 'a working member of society' to encompass all of these roles.

They're all in the eye of the beholder.

Secondary reasons for someones existence might be to mate, to have kids etc.

However an alternate theory of our existence, is that the purpose of our existence is simply to exist.

I have parents, as I'm sure you and everyone else does.

What I ignored initially is this questions pre supposed premise.

We have a purpose in our existence.

Please by all means test this hypothesis, prove to me that we do have a purpose of existence. Clearly for people to believe so firmly that there is a purpose to ones existence, then they must have some form of proof correct?

 

Contradiction.

Let's be honest here, money is the ulterior motive to getting a job. Even you would have to agree this; this is not an assumption. Money has it's worth in every society no matter how different it is from another.

The average Joe would not work if he did not have to, would be go about doing hard labor for free? I sense you will say that not all people work just for money and this is true, but for a debate like this you need to use majority over minority.

I don't think you quite get it still, the word "chair" does describe the shape of an object but it is the object that was created before the chair. When the carpenter literally thought of the concept of sitting on wood, instantly the "chair" you speak of came into existence. Not in the material world but soon to be, it had its purpose predetermined before creation. People this chair and its purpose because they know who created it.

If you don't know who created it, how on Earth would you find out what its true purpose was for? Unless you knew the person who created it and asked him yourself.

I never said it did not have a purpose. We simply cannot determine what our purpose is because we do not know who/what created us, we could be misinterpreting what we should be doing with this gift of life. Because this is the case, we must settle for what we think is suitable and satisfactory.

Do you know what subjective means? The way you use it in this sentence

Again, settling for something that we can live with and not actually with a purpose.

I am not talking about this, I am talking about the first human to walk this Earth.

I really do not want to sound rude, but this was quite obvious.

 

It's not re read it.

That is very narrow minded.
I got a job not for money but work experience. I could care less about money. Other people get a job because they like it, not because of money.
The average Joe also struggles to make ends meet, so maybe the average Joe should change themselves.

Nevertheless, I was just pointing out that LOTS of people maybe not the majority, but certainly a great percentage of people don't hold money as such a high standard as you would expect.

Our parents created us...
Just like a carpenter created the chair.

My interpretation of subjective is that it is ones perspective, feelings, beliefs on a certain subject.
What I mean is that, it is ones perception as to what roles within a working member of society are.

Why do we need to have a purpose in life?

Evolution.

If it was so obvious then prove that there is a purpose for ones existence.

 

Slight grammatical error so I won't discuss the contradiction until you fix it.

Work experience for what, a better paying job? That is normal for people under going frictional unemployment. I knew you would say because they love their job but I told you on the larger scale of things, people work for money to survive. You cannot deny this simple fact; work for money so that you can buy the basic necessities to live in this world. Nothing you say can change that.

I do hope you have proof of this. If you see a $100 bill on the ground, would you pick it up? Now offer anyone else this scenario, would they pick it up? If money did not have as high a standard a greater percentage would not pick up the bill, which is preposterous to assume.

No, you just don't get it. We are not the first d our kind, we know how to procreate but we don't give a predetermined purpose for your child. You don't imagine what your child looks like tub create an exact image of what you see in you head. When the chair was FIRST created, it was first created by man. So this question I ask is, who/what created the first human and if it were a sentient being, what was their idea of what we were mean for. NOT your parents creating a child.

The VERY FIRST human. What else can I do to emphasis this point you so blatantly ignore?

The society you were born and raised in is how you act. Behavior is culturally constructed, you may think you have your own will in how you act but it was the people who raised you that taught you how to act. Anything other than that and they alienate you.

That was the question asked was it not.

That is not purpose, that is merely chemical reaction.

What? This debate began after I contested on how easily you deemed our existence. I'm defending the concept that the notion of our existence is impossible for us to completely and factually confirm until we know who/what created us.

 

No, not for a better paying job, for work experience. I never considered myself working for money, but rather experience (not for a better paying job as I'm 16), and for fun.
On the larger scale of things most of the successful people in the world weren't primarily motivated by money.

Actually I was faced with this scenario recently, not $100, but $20; however at school thats a sizable amount for a student to carry. I picked it up and gave it to the front office. I have no need for money.
If you offered that scenario to any successful person they would've done the same as me.

We evolved... we weren't just created out of thin air.

Was never in dispute.

The question was what is, it presupposes that there is a purpose.

So you are saying that once we know who/what created us then we can 100% completely and factually confirm our existence?

I need to stress, evidence suggests that no one simply created us. There was not a time where bam humans suddenly appeared. It was a very slow process in which humans evolved to what they are today.

 

Live life with no regrets and leave it better than you found it. That's the purpose that our society has pretty much tied us too. They believe that us improving ourselves in science and technology is so important, so we must work hard and long to fit in with society.

Think of it this way, we're all animals. You and I are animals. Anyone that posted on this thread ARE animals. And what do you see tigers and lions doing? What do you see wolves doing? Just look at other animals, there really is no difference. We were once just like them and if you believe in the theory of revolution, we were them. I guess our purpose is to just live to survive.

 

Yeah, i also believe this is were religion comes in. If you believed in a religion such as Christianity then you would believe your purpose on Earth is to serve God. Others just believe we are here for no reason at all, its really what you believe. I believe that we were put here to serve the Lord.

 

Humans were created through natural processes and random chance which do not assign any purpose to us as they are simply the ways in which the universe functions.

 

A veteran comes up to me and tells me a story how a sniper bullet missed his head by centimeters. He asked me why I think god spared his life. I respond why ask?
Although that story may seem pointless I brought it up because believe it or not some questions don't need asking. Life is random it is human for us to believe things happen for a reason as it makes us feel better but the truth is theres not a reason for everything. How else can you explain a young childs kidnapping and death?

 

What makes you think anybody on this website knows?

 

I think he was asking on your thoughts and opinions of the matter and not if anyone knows the true answer. Seeing as no one on this Earth would truely know the purpose of our existence.

 

i just listen to jay z quotes " dying young living a good looking corpse"

 

Reproduce; and live onwards progressing.