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  1. Unread #1 - Jan 17, 2025 at 7:49 PM
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    Scammer's profile link: GhostsShop
    Amount scammed: 40$ + 500m of bank value (probs more but about average)
    Discord ID + Unique Discord ID:

    Discord Unique ID:
    120331451261648896
    Discord Username:
    Ghost07#0707


    Proof that it's their Discord:

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    Explanation of the trade:
    I bought one of his Phosani accn'ts for c. 40$ about 3 months ago. Trained invested etc. Went on a business trip, come back (gone 2 days) email or pass does not work (note i had changed this alongside email and also had in hands full registration email (created it in case of this bs).

    How they scammed:

    He recovered the account from original creation details (which he never provided) and took my stuff / account now has been made into jagex account and changed pass/authentication removed - no idea how tor recover it will all the details, my bank card was also linked to it and charged an extra month. Looks like a name change on account too and cannot search on hi scores.

    I have contacted him via his ticket system calling him out, he asked for proof (which was fishy) or videos of me having access to original email (which i do) and shown him, he then proceeded to say he buys these bottled accounts from his 'seller' and added more fishy stuff which proved he still had details to the account.

    I am not banned from his discord and cannot obtain any further conversations logs, which were on his support ticket

    He claims i wanted a free account?

    Other relevant trade screenshots:

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    Abolsulty no idea how he managed to remove even the authentication.....
     
  3. Unread #2 - Jan 21, 2025 at 6:23 PM
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    @GhostsShop can you please provide the full ticket transcript and the terms of service agreed to for this sale?

    @M1kos can you please provide proof of your ltc payment?
     
  5. Unread #3 - Jan 21, 2025 at 6:29 PM
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  7. Unread #4 - Jan 21, 2025 at 6:31 PM
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  9. Unread #5 - Jan 21, 2025 at 6:49 PM
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    Agreed to $40 LTC for a PNM Account - Buyer did pay via LTC can confirm that. Just sent you that ticket transcript @Zulu
     
  11. Unread #6 - Jan 21, 2025 at 6:52 PM
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    @M1kos @GhostsShop

    Were these the terms of service that were agreed to for this sale?

    [​IMG]
     
  13. Unread #7 - Jan 21, 2025 at 7:40 PM
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    Yes @Zulu

    These have been the terms of service since roughly 12/7/2022 as the date is posted, and these were what they were at the time of sale.
     
  15. Unread #8 - Jan 21, 2025 at 8:10 PM
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    @GhostsShop


    [Section Rules] Old School RuneScape Accounts

    It doesn't appear that you mention anywhere in the terms of service about your recovery responsibility period. To sell accounts here on Sythe, you must offer at minimum a 30 day period to assist with unlocking accounts.

    Since there was no timeframe mentioned, this means you are liable for unlocking the account as it would default to the two year period as mentioned in the rule above. If you are unable to unlock the account and return it to @M1kos, you will need to refund the payment of $40.

    There was also a concern about the wealth of the account which we would not have anyway to verify, so a refund/compensation for this would not be an option with the proof provided here.
     
  17. Unread #9 - Jan 22, 2025 at 12:34 AM
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    Can I ask why my terms aren't a validation of the refund compensation time? It clearly states
    1. We are unable to perform recoveries or unlocks as you are provided sole access to the account and registered email upon sale.


      These accounts are generated using EF Rotating Proxies, we NEVER have had or will have any recovery details for accounts like this. The buyer also had services completed on the account, as he gave the password and email to a third party - proof [​IMG]

      Also just another sense of who this buyer is according to his scythe profile.
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      The buyer clearly has been a problem in multiple discords and scythe and I believe that the proof provided is ample to warrant no refund. While $40 is not a big deal obviously, the fact that scythe is unwilling to protect sellers in this case is quite odd especially with VERY clear terms of service.

      The buyer stated in his ticket that he attached 2 emails, a password change, and 2fa onto the account. The account in this case UNRECOVERABLE especially with 0 creation details saved with a rotating proxy.
    The account name looks to be changed by the user quite a bit ago, and the name has since been on the highscores, showing that the account has most likely been banned for quite some time.
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    This user is clearly trying to get free accounts as this seems to be quite common for him and I hope this information helps. Also here is a screenshot of him saying he switched pws, emails, and turned to a jagex acc, not sure how you would want me to recover something like this, even if someone had creation details they aren't getting past that stuff, this user clearly either is lying, or was hacked by whoever did services, or it was banned due to botting.

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  19. Unread #10 - Jan 22, 2025 at 12:40 AM
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    Also just to double back

    "If you are an account seller and you do not specifically mention your recovery responsibility in your Terms of Service, by default you have recovery responsibility for two years."

    I'm not sure how much clearer I could make

    We are unable to perform recoveries or unlocks as you are provided sole access to the account and registered email upon sale.

    And even if that isn't clear enough, I am at least mentioning my recoverability, and it has been WELL past 30 days.
     
  21. Unread #11 - Jan 22, 2025 at 3:00 AM
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    As I mentioned above, the minimum amount of time required for sellers to sellers to assist with unlocking accounts is one month. If there is no specific timeline mentioned in the ToS, then it defaults to two years.

    It does appear that you mentioned that you obtained the account from a third party as a tutorial island account. If you are unable to produce the original ticket to prove you disclosed this information before the sale, this would mean that you also did not disclose that you were not the original owner of the account.


    At this time, you will need to refund the $40 payment.
     
  23. Unread #12 - Jan 22, 2025 at 3:06 AM
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    Sounds good @mikos please provide me your LTC address and I'll toss you the $40. Somehow you once again succeeded at scamming a discord.

    I will ensure this will not go unnoticed, especially with your shady history.
     
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    @M1kos please provide the LTC address to be refunded.
     
  27. Unread #14 - Jan 28, 2025 at 5:44 AM
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    I have sent you a private note
     
  29. Unread #15 - Jan 28, 2025 at 8:54 AM
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  31. Unread #16 - Jan 28, 2025 at 6:28 PM
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  33. Unread #17 - Jan 29, 2025 at 6:01 PM
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    The $40 refund has been issued so I will go ahead and close this report. Thank you both for resolving this.

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