Join Date / Post Counts

I Get nervous trading with kids who have been here 1 month have 150 posts and 25 + Vouches ... gets me nervous... but yea always use an OMM don't be stupid if you don't trust someone.

 

Exactly, if you use a OMM, none of these attributes matter.

 

Should be a combo of donations+vouches+date joined+sexy sig lol

 

join date does come into part sometimes.
you can see how long they have gone without being banned and you might feel a bit better when trading

 

I think there is a certain point where an OMM really isn't needed if you have alot of trade experience and rep. Trades worth 1-2$ and such.

 

It's all well and good saying use an OMM, but when your trade starts to exceed a few hundred dollars, trusting the guy with 300 vouches seems like a better option than paying $50-100 for an OMM.

 

Fully agree with you, but like for small trades even if its for a pure etc, use a OMM, usually well sometimes the seller doesnt mind paying fees to get the trade done, yeah your right. Using a OMM with big trades is pricey.

 

Join date doesn't have to neccessarily mean they are/aren't trustworthy. I joined in August 2010 but have only started being active in January 2011. Vouches are more important imo, as long as they are from LEGITIMATE people, not some other 1-month-ago-join-date newcomer with 0 vouches themselves

 

To be honest I think join date and vouch QUALITY should play a large part in trading. I have seen scammers come and go buying doing very small amounts of trades at a time like buying / selling 1m through many different people different times to simply boost their vouch count. After 10 - 15 of these they go ahead and scam people for 100m+. Generally the people on these accounts are almost always new members. This is why I take join date into consideration when trading with users.

Because of this reason when I do trades with new members with vouches I do not care at all how many vouches they have, I always check the vouch quality. I suggest everyone does that, because vouch quality is a lot more important than quantity. If I wanted I could spend $100 and buy around 150m to get a lot of vouches. So you can see why quality is better.

Post count can always assist me a little bit when i am determining trustworthiness however I do not let that be a sole factor alone, If I am using post count as an indicator after I have looked at vouches and join date then I will only use it to view what type of posts these people are making.

Another scheme scammers use is that other new members use post count as an indicator of trust so they will post on every buying and selling thread saying "I have added you" although they never added and they continue this for a month and do a few cheap trades for vouches then they just end up scamming after a few hundred posts.

Another thing about post count, it helps me to tell if I am dealing with an active or not as active member. I prefer to trade with more active members in the community.

If anyone is going to take anything out of this post it should be that Vouch quality, join date, and post quality are the only things that matter.

 

Well for the sparse amounts of trades I do here, I do take post count into consideration. If I see someone with 1,000 posts, yeah I'd probably trust them more than someone with 30 posts, since 1,000 posts can take a lot of time (took me 5 years, lol) and in common sense who's going to throw all of that away for just like 10m rsgp?

 

Neither matter much to me..
Join dates I can see how they can effect one's perception, but one would also have to look at the activity of the user.
As for post count, it's useless. I have a PPD of like 2.

I simply don't trust anyone (Well, VERY few people.)
As well, I refuse to go first; I don't really care who I'm trading with. That is assuming I'm not good friends with the individual, and it's not a large trade.

 

Interesting topic, use me as an example. I consider myself trustworthy but i doubt others do, I joined in 2005. I don't keep vouches instead i get reputation with the people i like to trade with, this may be the wrong thing to do but it's never set me back yet. I mean i'm even older than R2 here, and me and R2 are pretty good friends via trading alot. As others have said, OMM is the way to safety .

-An old bugger.

 

In my opinion, vouches do matter to a certain extent. Post count and join date isnt as important to me, because someone could just decide they want to sell their goodies (haha). Thats why we have OMMs these days.

 

Well if all goes well with OMM but if you get chargeback, still doesn't make a different. Haha I got chargeback 3 times in 1 day lol.
It's important to do deals with Trusted Seller only on PayPal.

 

True, the OMM can't do much to stop people from charging back as some don't even accept money because of it, they just ask them to send the money to the buyer while holding the item being sold.

 

Just because someone has posted a lot or joined a long time ago doesn't mean they won't scam. I also look at if they've donated a lot to Sythe. You can never really completely trust anyone though, I mean when your dealing with someone whose handling thousands of dollars, you know the thought crosses their mind, but in the end it isn't worth it. To me anyways.

 

I do agree though but some people just have that natural style of satisfying the other party that he won't scam. But you gotta be clever and strong and think the otherwise and stuffs. I got 3 chargebacks on. I just sold another 33M.

Let's hope it doesn't get chargeback. I'm real cautious. Every 5-15mins I'll login my PayPal and check.

 

Lol at banned guy 2 posts up.

I actually base some trust on where they post, if they have a nice sig, if they have filed a scam report, and other pointless things. On top of the vouches etc.

 

Personally for me I disregard the join date post count completely.

Even vouches. someone could have 50 vouches from training minimal levels on rs and membership pins.

So I only trade with a person with high level vouches from trusted user for instance

someone with 5 post count and April 2011 but with 5 vouches with a total value of $1600 from reputable receipts.

compared to someone with 1000 posts 2007 50 vouches with value of $200 max

I'm going to trust the first guy.

 

That's why I hardly ever use PayPal to receive money, there is a whole other side of stress and paranoia in wondering if the buyer charged back or not.