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[denied] Make having sythe username mandatory when selling accounts
  1. Unread #1 - Dec 1, 2024 at 9:11 PM
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    [denied] Make having sythe username mandatory when selling accounts

    Describe the problem:
    There's been a uproar of people trying to sell accounts they don't own just by taking pictures from other sites / other threads
    What current rule(s) tackle this problem:
    none really, people are able to just post whatever picture not really proving any ownership
    Explain the change:
    a simple "Bordercollie127 from sythe here selling X account" in the chat bar of OSRS / RS3
    Explain why this change will fix the problem:
    It'll put a little damper on people trying to scam accounts they don't own and if they try to toss up edited pictures there's detectives on here that can easily spot a photo edit
    Side-effects:
    none really, other then the 300$+ donors who simply just post a random google image and bump their threads every 4 hours anyways.

    It's not a drastic change but I believe it will slow down on the amount of fuck wits trying to sell accounts they don't own.
     
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  3. Unread #2 - Dec 1, 2024 at 9:19 PM
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    [denied] Make having sythe username mandatory when selling accounts

    No support - we don’t require full screen pictures beyond stats & this could be easily manipulated anyways. Unfortunately people are going to continue to try to scam regardless if this is implemented or not.
     
  5. Unread #3 - Dec 1, 2024 at 9:27 PM
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    [denied] Make having sythe username mandatory when selling accounts

    It's a minor request when its not even mandatory to post showing the accounts Ironman status which is absolutely insane on its own.

    but like you said its easily to manipulate but like i said, there's enough detectives on here that can spot a photoshopped picture with half an eye.
     
  7. Unread #4 - Dec 2, 2024 at 6:32 AM
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    [denied] Make having sythe username mandatory when selling accounts

    Support,
    Whereas I do enjoy reading the memes in the report section.
    I'm all for it if it saves 1-2 people from getting scammed
     
  9. Unread #5 - Dec 2, 2024 at 9:07 AM
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    [denied] Make having sythe username mandatory when selling accounts

    Could've done more but you get the point.

    [​IMG]
     
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  11. Unread #6 - Dec 2, 2024 at 12:02 PM
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    [denied] Make having sythe username mandatory when selling accounts

    but sure you're right
     
  13. Unread #7 - Dec 2, 2024 at 1:23 PM
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    [denied] Make having sythe username mandatory when selling accounts

    That's the thing - what I did took ~45 seconds and was all within the RuneLite client itself. There was no photoshop involved. I don't believe this is a necessary suggestion given how easily manipulated it can be anyways.
     
  15. Unread #8 - Dec 2, 2024 at 5:08 PM
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    No support
     
  17. Unread #9 - Dec 2, 2024 at 5:19 PM
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    [denied] Make having sythe username mandatory when selling accounts

    That's really the point behind it, a small inconvenience might deter serial scammers from taking the time to do it. As little as 1-2 a week even would be a huge boost considering 1/2 scammers pop up daily trying to sell accounts they don't own. It's a shame when lazy people are against such a small change, too lazy to actually take photos to update their 600 threads they bump.
     
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    [denied] Make having sythe username mandatory when selling accounts

    I support this
     
  21. Unread #11 - Dec 3, 2024 at 8:57 PM
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    [denied] Make having sythe username mandatory when selling accounts

    Anyone nefarious can fake stats, etc very easily with the Runelite client. (as @Kanye already demonstrated) They are already taking the time to fake having accounts and the added suggestion would not thwart this. This suggestion also adds more of a burden to legitimate account sellers as it wouldn't solve the issue at hand.
     
  23. Unread #12 - Dec 12, 2024 at 5:56 PM
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    [denied] Make having sythe username mandatory when selling accounts

    No support. This does not change anything. People wanting to scam will just continue.
     
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    [denied] Make having sythe username mandatory when selling accounts

    It's a nice idea but scammers would simply fake the screenshots.

    The only other way I could see out of this is a "mod verified" option where someone could have a staff member verify that the RS account they are selling they do actually own with that name / stats. Though there will be questions as whether this "account verification" service should be paid, plus do staff have time to do this? Finally, you could still verify an RS account with said name and still scam anyway, so all it would prove is the account they are selling they have proven exists, but not that they could still plan to scam you.
     
  27. Unread #14 - Dec 18, 2024 at 1:03 PM
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    [denied] Make having sythe username mandatory when selling accounts

    That's true people would fake screenshots, I have not said scammers won't but .... There are more then just people like Wortel who are Scammer detectives on here that can spot an edit easily... and 90% of the sellers in the account section look at other accounts posted so if they were to see an edit they would report it as well. as to Kanye's poor edit.... the account is wearing void, you need 42 attack / strength in order to wear it... so it either shows he's ignorant or low IQ. So I am sure 99% of Sythe could see that is edited.

    That suggestion of "mod verified" is intriguing, wouldn't exactly need "mod" status per say but even members with "Account Verifier" that can ask on threads to meet in game to verify said account on the thread. I'm sure there's at least a few people who would be willing to go for that.

    It is what it is, just seems either the lazy ones are against it.... or the ones who have multiple selling threads and posting generic stat screenshots as their proof of ownership. oh well let the scammers keep scamming i guess and have a new report posted about needing an account verified weekly
     
  29. Unread #15 - Dec 18, 2024 at 1:21 PM
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    [denied] Make having sythe username mandatory when selling accounts

    This was just a quick example to show that it’s possible within the client itself. The emphasis was on the max cape as well plus not having max total for an example.. as that would clearly be a sign.

    This is a lot harder to tell than you’d think and even my reports of users selling accounts they do not own were not really possible to tell with the screenshots but additional digging had to be done.

    There’s also (& to Laptops point) times where I’ve seen the account appears to be as advertised but the individual just doesn’t provide the details over, so simply having a mod verify this may provide newcomers with an additional false sense of security/verification surround their purchase just to get scammed in the end.

    Unfortunately nothing presented in this thread would stop scammers from simply being scammers.
     
  31. Unread #16 - Dec 18, 2024 at 4:26 PM
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    I dont get it? I mean I get that these photos can be faked but it just adds another "step" a potential scammer has to go through. It seems the site gets scammed on so much no body bats an eye anymore, its not worth it to anyone (or no one cares enough) to add minuscule amount more work for account sellers? It doesnt even effect the sellers that have you join their discord. Its kind of sad that sythe isnt doing everything in their power to stop scammers.. :( I would feel safer from these screenshots so I support.
     
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    Its like telling google (or whoever supplies/buys captcha services), people can make bots that are able to complete their captcha, might as well not update them every one in a while or just stop the captcha completely.
     
  35. Unread #18 - Dec 18, 2024 at 4:41 PM
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    They're just lazy is all it is lol, can go ahead and close this cause all the mod has proven is they're terrible at editing a photo.
     
  37. Unread #19 - Dec 18, 2024 at 5:49 PM
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    [denied] Make having sythe username mandatory when selling accounts

    This is exhibit A of a false sense of security with having these pictures or this suggestion. This took me all of ~1Min to do as you can see in the timer below - or did it? Can you spot what is actually edited or if there are any edits (beyond obviously the white boxes)?

    [​IMG]

    Let me know in PM or on discord if you'd like to discuss further as I too would like to see people not get scammed.

    Sorry to put this bluntly but I believe you still aren't getting the point. Obviously a scammer wouldn't reflect 1 total level wearing a max cape in the screenshot.

    Let's try one more time for you - do you think this below picture has been edited and can you spot any of the concerns, if there are any?

    [​IMG]

    I think I can speak for staff that we'd certainly like to prevent/limit scams in any capacity we can, but it's got to actually prevent/limit scams. This in it's current form suggested wouldn't.

    Although it was suggested to be closed above I think leaving this open may benefit more spin-offs/feedback around this topic.
     
  39. Unread #20 - Dec 18, 2024 at 6:17 PM
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    I'd potentially say make it a screenshot from the mobile client
    Which isn't as easily edited as one from runelite

    The "verified by (Authorised verification entity)" makes even more sense if you ask me.
    That sounds like the most foolproof method. Does require volunteers tho.
     
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