New type of boxer? Hmmm

So I'm thinking of making a boxer, but it wont be quite like your avg boxer.

Ive been trying to decide on stats and I got to thinking, "What are the main benefits to all the combat stats"

First is attack. MAIN benefit is the ability to use higher level weapons
Second is defense. MAIN benefit is the ability to use higher level armor
Third is strength. ONLY benefit is to hit higher
Fourth is HP. ONLY benefit is to be able to take more damage

Now I see this and say, "well the MAIN benefits of attack and defense, are in fact LOST while boxing. You can't wear armor or use weapons! SO, why not maximize the benefits of the two stat's that AREN'T effected by the boxing rules, while minimizing Combat level?

So the obvious answer is:

Combat: 57
Attack: 1
Strength: 99
Defense: 1
HP: 99

Now this might seem very simple to you but most people see this build and think "pker". While I'm thinking "okay yeah I might hit quite a few 0's but when I DO connect I'll be hitting VERY high (as high as a maxed account), and I will be able to take a TON of damage (as much as a maxed account)".

Other boxers my level will only have around 50-60ish HP, with somewhere around 45-50 strength, which has a max hit around 5-6. At 99 strength, max hit is about 11-12. That means that, statistically, if I connect once out of every FOUR times he hits me, I win.

Now you might be thinking "No, it's once for every TWO times he hits you because you'll do an average of TWICE as much damage". Yes it's true that I will only do twice as much damage, but he also has to inflict twice as much damage to ME because my HP will be around x2 his. That means if I hit an avg of 6 (just dividing max hit by 2) and he hits 3 (again dividing max hit by 2) I would have to hit him 55/6 = 9 times total to kill him (just giving him the benefit of the doubt that his hp is 55), and he would have to hit me 99/3 = 33 times total to kill me. (I know 9/33 isn't exactly 1/4 but I'm assuming since he's a boxer he might have 55 hp instead of 50. BTW, level 50 in A, S, D and Hp is exactly lvl 57 combat)

Now comes to the only part that isn't based off math and logic. This is figuring out the true effects of attack and defense. SO, what I want to know from YOU is if YOU think that 50 atk and def is more important than a 1/4 necessary hit ratio. That is to say, will having 50 attack and defense cause you to hit x4 as often as someone with 1 attack and defense.

Thanks for reading this, it's just a thought. Tell me what you think, if you've had any experience with something like this, etc.

~The Barron

EDIT: I did some calculations and found out the the average speed of your fist is the same as a scimitar which is about a speed level of 6. That means that there are 4 game ticks (1 tick = 0.6 seconds) between each strike. That means when boxing you hit one time every 2.4 seconds (confirmed in game). So that means that if I get hit every single time the fight will last 33 x 2.4 = 80 seconds or 1:20<< This is the ABSOLUTE LOWEST time the fight can last if he wins (given an average hit of 3). I have trouble believing that I will not hit him 9 times even in that span of time.

 

well with ur 1 def ull be hit constantly as well and little damages build up

 

With level one attack, you never hit. Seriously. I'm speaking from experience here, I tried the same thing.

 

A general rule of thumb when make boxers is to your their attack and strength within 8 levels of each other.

 

why not high attack insted of hp and hit everytime

 

Good thinking, I like it.
However, without defense you'll get slaughtered as they'll hit so constantly

 

How many boxers are there at 57 combat?

 

That's actually my biggest concern. I don't think there's too many

To all the people saying I'll get hit constantly. Ya I know that, but with 99 hp I'll have to be hit 33 times before I hit him 9 times

 

But with one attack, the chances of you hitting high (or at all, for that matter) are significantly reduced.

Or at least that's how I think it works.

 

You've overlooked the core of a staking build.

It isn't about inconsistent high hits; but instead low, constant hits.

 

You could try the 1 attack thing and raise it a bit until you see results.

 

I've purposefully overlooked the stereotypical boxer to try something new. I know that.

Floyd: I'm pretty sure attack works in the exact opposite way defense works. Defense doesn't reduce the max hit or the average hit when you do connect, it just raises the likelihood of your opponent hitting a 0. While attack does the opposite. It LOWERS the chances of YOU hitting a 0

 

I highly doubt it would work. With 1 defense you'd be a sitting duck against a person with decent attack...all your fights would be based on you getting lucky and hitting high often (which probably wouldn't happen very much at all with only 1 attack). Even if you're able to hit 120's, if a person who hits 60+ connects twice as much as you, you'll lose. If anything I'd say your build is the *opposite* of what a good boxer should be (factoring out hp of course).

 

Okay. I'm telling you that it won't work.

 

I disagree. 1 attack hitting 50 defence will hardly ever hit. The MAIN advantage of attack is to have higher accuracy, and the MAIN advantage of defence is to deflect hits. So you will have low accuracy, on someone who deflects a high amount of hits, and at the same time, you will be fighting somebody with high accuracy, and you only deflect a low amount of hits.

 

I agree with the fact that there aren't any boxers around 57 combat.
Over-exaggeration? Yes. But not far from true.

I think that your best bet for trying something new would be..

99 HP.
99 Strength.
99 Defence.
1 Attack.

82 Combat.

 

Nope, it will be a very fail boxer... It will never hit and you will constantly get hit. You obviously don't understand the basics of runescape. The more defence you have the less likely you will get hit/ you'll block more often with or without armour. With attack you are more likely to hit through someones defence with or without a weapon.

 

Without def, I don't see you making any decent money from staking. If you watch all the pro's, they're all made off the same build, with minor variations.
I don't see this working, sorry.

 

Find a friend with 50 defence, try and duel him on a 1 attack account (str doesn't amtter as we're finding out how much you hit, not how high you hit) Have a look at how many times you actaully hit him, there is your answer.

 

Str after a certain point doesn't mean shit in staking ... that boxer build you get raped left and right by anyone near its level. if you don't have def, you will never be in a fight long enough to hit.