Just how 'tolerant' should we be?

It's been hammered into most of our heads from a young age that tolerance and acceptance are essential virtues to living in a modern world where people of all backgrounds coexist happily. Naturally, in an ideal world people of all backgrounds WOULD coexist happily... and for the most part, we do.

However, ideals can never fully be met in real life. Personally, I'm an athiest, but I don't care to ask whether any of the people I meet are Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Athiest, Agnostic, Sikh, Buddhist, or Scientologist. Why? Because none of these religions exclude (friendly) contact with "unbelievers".

Islam, on the other hand...

Does this not reflect certain events people of this faith have perpetrated over the past decade?

Even if we forget militant atrocities they've committed (against innocent civilians)... even the civilians come to countries like the UK and the USA to avoid problems in their third-world homeland, and not only do they refuse to assimilate (which is fine if your way of life doesn't interfere with anyone else's), but demand Sharia Law, burn poppies, want to turn the White House into a Mosque, etc...

Are you going to do something about violent attempts at promoting radicalism and fundamentalism of foreign religions on your own soil? A storm is coming; fight the tide or be drowned in it!

 

Here it's talking about the hypocrites in Makkah at the time of the prophet. Who said they were with the muslims but were actually waiting for a chance to turn against them.

Atleast quote the full verse SMR.

I'm not the type of person to disrespect other religions but I can quote quite a verse from the bible with regards to killing disbelievers.

 

I suppose this is what Congressman Peter King is trying to do with his hearings on radical Islam which are being met with a lot of criticism that its "denegrating muslims" simply by bringing the topic up.

 

Aren't you Indian? Why did your family move out of india, to avoid problems in their third-world homeland?

 

Immigration I believe needs to be capped, namely the UK.

 

I do agree that the immigration should be capped. Immigration for 2009 was at around 560,000.

However, 37% of the 560,000 people coming into this country are coming for formal study. If some of the college's and universities stopped offering so many places to international students then it would lower the number of immigrants coming in to the country.

 

Yes, they did. But I don't believe in Hinduism (I'm atheist) and I'm fully assimilated with Canadian culture.

Let me state that I don't really have a problem with all Muslims, just the radical ones.

 

I think thats a view most people have but some blow that out of proportion and make it it sound like a person who says that hates all muslims.

 

Well the majority of Muslims aren't like that and we try our best to mix in with the culture. I go out etc. however I won't drink alcohol.

The people who say they are muslims and give Islam a bad name I wouldn't even call them Muslims because nowhere in the Quran does it allow you to kill innocent people. What they do is against Islam.

 

These kind of threads never end well... Just saying to keep this moderated well. Also, careful not to quote things out of context, as I saw in another thread someone did it with the Bible.

Try googling that verse, maybe there's another meaning to it, Cos I have Muslim friends and there's no problems.

Do you have any problems with Radical Athiests?


edit: I just read all of it, this sounds more like an attack on a faith than a discussion.

 

Live and let live is usually my philosophy. Just seems like lately people of certain faiths are more overrepresented than others as far as radicalism and violent atrocities go.

 

Ouch........ I have a problem with Radical Athiests, just because it seems that when anything radical is in people's face, most get defensive and hunker down extremely fast. Thus stopping any type of logical arguments.

 

Violent atrocities? That's what I would call the war on Iraq and the war in Afghanistan.

http://www.iraqbodycount.org/

 

Muslims you know are not all bad. It's easy to point fingers because a few extremists went to far and are really fucked up. Remember Christains have extremests like the Ku Klux Klan and all religeons when compared to one another have flaws. I personally am a Christain and belive that my belief is right. I do judge all the time in fact I will come clean and admit I AM VERY RACIST. But part of freedom is the right to do so. I do not personally tolerate all reliegons but I don't think they are animals like the Nazis did to Jews. I will on occasion call muslims Arabian Sand Monkeys because they annoy me and you know what I have the freedom. Bottom line is everyone is a person but it's easy to judge a race/religion. It's different to judge an individual than a group. (except alqueda they can all go to hell because they arent worth more than the shit on my shoe)

 

Oh, Please do.


I think we should be tolerant of other beliefs unless they are trying to push them on you or bothering you with them. If you have someone that knows your an Athiest talking about God all the time, it would get pretty annoying.

 

Everyone has a right to believe what they want, regardless of muslim, christian, or w/e you are. You are entitled to your own decision.

 

The issue here is not what faith you adhere to; rather the radicalism and unwanted attitudes that some immigrants bring to their new homes.

 

Extremists in every field are bad.

Muslim Extremists.
Christian Extremists.
Religious Extremists.
White Supremacists.

Any form of extremism is detrimental to society.

I for one find it incredibly hypocritical that in Australia, Muslims are allowed to wear their Berqa, practice their beliefs, and then they still want to enforce their ideals onto us?
Thats not the part that outrages me. The part that infuriates me is when we go to their countries, we have to assimilate to their culture, conform to their way of life or we are treated like vermin.

Personally I dislike Islam and Christianity, they cause far too much dramas in society, and are outdated.

 

they should be tolerated, if not humored.

to silence extremists would be to give people the rights to discount and silence others as well.

 

I've never heard of anybody going to a muslim country and being treated like vermin. Whenever I've seen foreigner's in Pakistan they've always been treated well and with a lot of respect.