The Community Support Applicant Discussion Thread

Can anyone give me some feedback / opinions on this guide of mine:
http://sythe.org/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=1078997

Originally, I wasn't planning on applying for UE, but I'd quite like to learn a bit more about it.

 

My first tip would be this:

Font is too small.

I personally don't understand why people would need a guide on how to register an account, but when you say you've had run ins where people don't know how to then I think this is an excellent guide. Just the font is too small.

 

Anyone have any last minute suggestions with my application here? Sorry to keep posting here asking for advice, I want my application to be done right before I submit it .

 

Hey guys, if you have any suggestions about my application
http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1031935 feel free to PM me, thanks

 

The red and orange is kind of gross together in my opinion. Besides that, nothing wrong with it. To be honest, there's never been anything "wrong" with your application in itself.

It's the way you go about doing things. You come across as quite a cocky, and occasionally arrogant person. We'll be looking more into that than how you've presented your application.

Good luck.

Edit: Didn't notice this one.

Everything looks just dandy, good luck bro!

 

Completely unfair to users who are disliked.

1ce posted a bunch of guides, and I got the word count of only a few. I believe 4-5 and its 3336 words. Then I compared it to 3 of FlyingToast's guides and the word count of 1539. That is a 1797 word difference, and looking at the average of his guides 513 that would mean he would have to make about 3 1/2 guides to even compete with 1ce. Also, if you even look at the levels of knowledge you can easily tell 1ce is an expert on what he is talking about. While FlyingToast is teaching you how to manage a stray thread on your favourite pants or tshirt and teaching you how to middleman and take screenshots on a mac. How stupid do you expect us to be?

 

Quality over quantity. We don't count the words >_> it would be so stupid to do that. I made 15 guides while applying for Ue, but 8 of them were shit, but they still had a lot of words to them. Should I've been accepted in my 1st, 2nd or 3rd application because I had a lot of words? Probably not because having a lot of words doesn't = a good guide. Also, 1ce just rushed out guides on the same topic. If he made 2 guides which was so extensive, so massive, so magnificent he would of been accepted without a doubt in my mind. But rather he made 8 guides which weren't of good quality. For example,

http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1078964
http://sythe.org/showthread.php?p=8452383
http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1077034

Then there's guides with no pictures in it:

http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1078891
http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1078964
http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1079226
http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1081625
http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1077034
http://sythe.org/showthread.php?p=8452942
http://sythe.org/showthread.php?p=8455025

Most of these guides could of had pictures if he put more effort into it.

If he can make 1 guide that has lots of pictures, on a interesting/useful topic, visually appealing/pleasing, easy to understand, overall 1 guide that is really helpful he would have a much greater chance than make 8 guides without pictures or anything stated above.

 

Why should it be visually appealing? These guides are for people who have a decent knowledge and I personally dislike seeing all these bright colours everywhere.

Also,I feel feren silver persuaded others to deny him due to the fact I made him mad.

 

No one want's a sloppy guide, I would rather read a well organized guide. I don't think he means guides with bright colors, he probably meant pictures, good layout, etc.

Not the case.

 

As the author of my guides let me jump to my own defense.

There are plenty of over praised guides out there instructing people how to adjust their fly, play PSP in a car, and tell a "boy dog" from a "girl dog". My guides are targeted to an audience who can manage all of the above. Some of my guides are targeted for unix systems "//FreeBSD". Do I honestly need to show you how to depress each letter on the keyboard? Do I need to hold your hands and spoon feed you on how to find the enter key? If yes, then my guides are not targeted at you and complaining about them is moot.

My guides are broken down into 2 catagories; tutorial, and informational.

An informational is there to educate my readers about how something works. Sythe has rules an policies and I am not always able to elaborate or show pictures on what I'm talking about.

For example: #!# How a password works //General/Education

Furthermore, my Informational guides are a 'tidbit' of knowledge I am trying to pass onto a user. If I have to add pictures to show you what a 'wireless' network is I don't suppose I wrote that guide for you in the first place.

My tutorial guides are not entirely there to instruct somebody on how to do a specific procedure. They are there to also educate my readers on how the whole process works so they UNDERSTAND the concept. I put pictures where they are needed/help/appropriate. And if you don't understand this you really haven't read my guides. Or perhaps my guides went way over your head because you lack the prerequisite knowledge to understand them in the first place.

There is 1 thing the support community is lacking, and that is guides for advanced users. That is the gap I am trying to fill. If the newbies don't like it, tough tits, they will get there one day.

Edit: I break my guides down into segments, and go into detail on each statement. Furthermore; I always prepare my guides with an "About this Guide::" so the reader understands what the guide will be about in the first place. I also don't leave people in the dark, I will specify EXACTLY what sort of guide it is about. Weather it is just a small article for somebody to learn something new, or if it is an in depth look at the worlds largest software manager; I make it clear and concise. (Try actually reading them.) I also made it clear in my UE application that the reason I would like to be a User Educator is to educate, not to entertain. My guides are targeted to people who plan on finishing my guide and learning something. If you want bright colors or pictures that are out-of-place then please, do not read my guides, I did not write them for you.

My consensus is: "Inquiring minds wish to know". And so I write my guides.

cosrob97:: I have 13 guides out, and none of which are on the same 'topic'. Again, read them. If you don't understand that you ARE NOT my target audience. (Yea I actually have a standard for prerequisite understanding for the readers of my guides).


(for real?), 1ce

 

I was told by multiple people that was a large contribution to why my UE application was denied.

Harrr

Furthermore; I could care less if UE was denied. I'm still going to write guides with, or without it. IDC if faren likes my guides or not, feren is entitled to feren's own opinion.

But on the topic, I have not seen feren post a single guide since he/she got UE, that goes to many, many other people. Personally I don't care. I think UE is a free easy rank given to people who can write 2 corny guides. Weather or not I have UE next to my name is irrelevant.

More people want the title just to "have something" than people who actually like to write guides in the first place. UE shouldn't be a talent show on googling images or reiterating a guide that's been discussed over 9000 times.

Really guys? it's not a big deal. Either you write guides, or you don't. *shakes head*.

 

Rules and guidelines are different.

A rule is definitive.
A guideline is suggested.

 

Perhaps, UE isn't important to me though, it's just a title. Not a license to post.

 

It makes a difference if it's visually appealing, it makes it easier for the reader to read the guide, and thus, easier to read and you won't lose interest while reading.

Looking at the thread now, Feren was 5th to vote and didn't say anything that wasn't said already.

Yep, because you made the same guide 13 times in a row. Derp. When I say the same topic, I'm saying all you're guides are on "computers"; you can show versatility. It doesn't hurt.

The first vote was mentioned your join date (which it shouldn't), but later posted by R33l this (post after):

With R33l being an ex-hue I'm more than 100% sure he knows what talking about, and it isn't just me or Feren or anybody else you think.

 

Hi guys! Please give me feedbacks about my Application!

http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1090499

 

Can I get a reason on why my application was denied. I need to know what to work on


I know my guide was a little bland, but what else?

 

To be honest, there was only one reason you were denied. Other than that, you were a great candidate. You're extremely helpful, kind, and considerate. The reason that led to your application to be denied is that your guide is way to simple. I can sum up your guide by scrolling down Sythe, all you did is give links to the sections and a brief definition.

What I would like you to work on is your guide(s). Try to make more than the required amount of guides. Maybe around three? But, remember, quality over quantity. I would rather choose someone who made one spectacular guide than someone who made 7 guides that are lacking layout, pictures, spelling, grammar, etc. Try to make guides that a lot of users are having trouble with, something you can elaborate on, or a unique guide. I really would like to see you put more effort into your application layout, it was a bit disappointing. Also, try posting in the Sythe.org support and H&R a little more. Sorry If I was a little harsh, I wanted to give you the best advice I could to improve your chances next time. Hopefully this helps you, if you need anymore help, please feel free to PM me.

 

Made my CST Application a while ago and wondered what you guys think of it? Any feedback is welcome!

http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1090693

 

Here is my Application which is still under construction, id apprechiate some feedback on how to make it better.
http://sythe.org/showthread.php?p=8546041

 

Hey guys, may I please get a reason as to why my guide was denied? Was wondering so next time I can patch and improve my application; thanks.

http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1082678