MM's Not allowed to Vouch Traders

If only new members knew this. People who have been here for a while, or are very experienced in the market know this, but newer members don't.

 

Except if multiple MMs are vouching for you then you seem much more trusted than trust you've actually gained.

 

i do not support this on reason of:

New Comers to the community should use MM's to secure there trades so they dont get scammed, and if they have a few MM vouch's it shows the activity in the community if people just use MM's and dont get vouchs and dont go first in trades how will they gain the respect.

 

What you said makes no sense. Not only does using a trusted MM require no trust in the other party, it doesn't deserve two vouches, that's what I'm trying to say.

How one gains trust IS going first. You're not showing trust by using a MM to be honest.

 

It up to the member who is trading with another member to look at all the vouches and decided whether or not they are legit...

/Don't support.

 

This would make it challenging for newcomers to get vouches, unless they start like I did.

 

Only thing is you're not trusting the other trader when using a MM, so vouches shouldn't be given to be honest.

 

I don't really trust anyone. Does that mean I should never vouch even though people are legitly buying stuff from me?
Everyone starts with 0 vouches, so you're saying people should trust some random newcomer with 0 vouches with their cash, otherwise he'll never get vouches. BS.

 

I agree. And sadly most people dont choose quality over quantity and that where the threat hides himself. I think you should Vouch for MM and MM should vouch for traders and traders wont give vouches to eachothers at all cause they didnt actually trade with each other.

 

sorry if some one else asked this, but does the MM still get 2 vouches?

 

Yes, both parties trusted the MM, where the mm didn't trust either one with anything. Hence why mm's shouldn't vouch the traders.

 

Bumping this for justice.

 

I agree with you man. I've thought the vouch system could use a complete overhaul for a long time. A feedback system like eBay would be great.

But staying on topic, definately MMs shouldn't be allowed to vouch. They should be allowed to say that they mm'd the trade, but never a vouch. I mean a March 2011 join date stompin' around with OMM vouches is a dangerous thing

 

The current system serves its purpose and does just fine but I do agree that these mm vouches do inflate the current system.

 

A vouch is supposed to mean that you know a person well, and are convinced they are an honest person. However, most members just use vouches as positive trader feedback on any given trade.

It's a bit ironic, but vouches on this site are really only used for their intended purpose when no trade is involved. Thus, if anything, I'd support a movement away from the word "vouch" to something that more adequately describes its current function.

That said, it makes no sense to tell MM's they can't vouch traders. Again, the most meaningful vouches are often ones with no trades behind them at all, and as long as vouches for nothing are okay, there's really no feasible restrictions you can set on what people can and cannot vouch for.

 

I support This the Vouch System Get Abused By x2 Vouching There Should only be 1 per trade

 

Yeah, the way it's come to be is vouches are more like eBay feedback than an actual vouch. The only "real" vouches can be found in different threads such as my mm thread where buddies of value put a good word in for you.

I do agree the two should be different typesof feedback, but while vouches dominantly act the way they do I believe mm's shouldn't because the mm isn't trusting any one, hence no vouches given from him. Now if the MM helps his buds with a trade, then he can vouch.

 

Bump, don't want this idea to get crushed.

 

I can only agree for a 100% with you. Even though people should be more careful in trades.

 

Exactly this.

Being the middle man is more trustworthy than letting the other person go first.
The middle man handles both the payment and the sale...