Dont allow Auth "Give Aways"

I dont see the point in allowing them to be given away for some various reasons:

• For all you know, unless proven otherwise, the Auth is simply stolen from someone who actually paid for it.
• If it is stolen, letting people give it away just increases it's use, and gets it banned. Then, the person who bought the Auth is out the original price of the Auth.
• It creates a ton of spam - self explanatory
• If we dont allow "account dumps" then why she we allow essentially, Auth dumps. Yes i realize they might not always be given away too more than one person at once, you might have to win a contest the OP creates to get them, and i also realize a prime reason we dont allow account dumps is because people recover them, and you lose any work you've done on the account.

I really don't see why its allowed at all, unless they can prove they bought the Auth codes with the original Receipt email; they shouldn't be able to "Share" it. As long as its verified as theirs, i dont see an issue.

Im all for prizes, and give aways, as long as its actually theirs ^_^

 

How do we verify if it is theirs?

 

Every Auth purchase comes with a receipt email containing the Auth, and other contents which could obviously be censored.

Even if you could manage to create a fake one, no one would go through the trouble of making a fake email for EACH auth they're going to "share".

 

They never have allowed this.. Auth sales/give aways are against the rules.

 

That's what i thought. But apparently different.

It was in the Runescape General for 2 pages, till Kerokero moved it due to spam, to the spam forum.

Here it is: http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1040507

I made my point on the thread, same point im trying to make here.

 

I'm sorry but I always thought the rule was no auths..

 

Then Donations on Sythe should not be allowed, as you could've stolen the GP/Scammed the money, out of the original owner.

See above.

definition of spam: send unwanted or junk e-mail
Applying it to this context by using the keyword, unwanted.
Spam is unwanted, I think most people would disagree with the fact that giving away a free auth code is unwanted.

Not really familiar with account dumps, so Idk about that.

Sythe does not require you to prove that the GP or PayPal money is yours and not scammed. This is no different.

 

It would be impossible to tell if you scammed RSGPfrom someone, if you ended up scamming someone real money and then donated it the money could be charged backed, giving the money back to the original owner, and making the scammer out the amount he donated to Sythe.

Bye spam i mean extreme post farming. For an example, look at this thread: http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1040507 It was even moved by a sectional DUE to spam.

I wont bother explaining what an account dump is, basically giving away accounts you hacked.

Once again, its impossible to prove RSGP donations. As for real money donations, the chance of chargeback is high for the scammer.

Greedy Sythe members wanting free Auths possibly obtained via keylogging is no excuse to defend this.

 

I don't understand the problem about Auth Giveaways.
You aren't losing anything.

 

But someone else could be?

That's the entire point.

Say someone else managed to get your RSBot Auths, and posted them all over Sythe. Your auths would be banned in no time, and you'd be out of the money. All while the person who keylogged you is getting respect for giving away free Auths. Thats ridiculous

If the Auth is verified as theirs, theres not a problem with it.

 

Exactly, it's also IMPOSSIBLE to prove that it is your own Auth Code.

What are you gonna do?
Post a picture with the Auth code in the automated email so that instead of giving one person a free Auth code your gonna give 500 people it?

 

You, Meeder1, are taking this way beyond what it should have been taken.

No mods/admins expressed their disapproval of it, and as I stated in my topic I would confirm ownership of the auth code to a mod/admin and allow them to distrubute it to whoever won it.

Now that i think about it, no mods/admins expressed their disapproval the first time i gave away a auth.

 

It's not hard to PM a picture link to a Moderator and get it verified.

If your willing to verify it I'm not having an issue with it. I simply don't like the idea of the possibility of people earning respect from others essentially from keylogging people.

 

And as for stolen auths, you can have a auth code reissued and the previous one canceled. That little fact there pretty much butchers the centerpeice of your... temper tantrum.

 

I don't see why you bother making this entire thread about you and me, considering your willing to prove your Auths aren't stolen. =|

 

Im still kinda ticked from when you insuiated that i was a scammer/theif.
I take slights agenst my honor seriously. What made me even more angry, was when you went and did the same thing even after i said i was willing to verify ownership with a mod/admin.

 

I was under the presumption it was already a rule. Support then, comes under the same reason why you can't give accounts away.

 

If you steal someone's auth, NeXus just refunds it. However, if you steal an account, it's a much more serious offense. I allow auth giveaways as something fun because it really is just that: it's fun to do as a competition of sorts. I wanted it in the SF because it's not really relevant to Runescape or anything, and that is where most of the "just-for-fun" stuff goes on Sythe.

IMO, auth giveaways are fine because whoever is giving it away isn't really gaining anything; there's no incentive to scam whatosever. Selling an auth is obviously against the rules because you're buying something that will get banned in two days, but the seller gets a new one in his email inbox.

 

someone gave me a free auth key ( agility i think ) months ago and i thought it was very nice of him.

i disagree. some people are just quitting rs and they must as well giveaway their auth keys ( he did not publicly release but said post what you want ) and then he would pm the auth codes ( first come first serve )

 

Well, you surely are not smart because:
A) He could have the person on a RAT, which allows me to see ANYTHING on your computer. He could get his email password, take a screen shot of it, and "verify" it.
B) It's not keylogging, i don't know how the hell you kids say keylogging can get auths, no it can't. Maybe it can get their password to their email and get the auths, but you can't just steal someones auths by having them on a logger, unless everytime they open their client they like to type the codes in for fun.