what produces prejudice, evil people or twisted society?

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what produces prejudice, evil people or twisted society?
  1. Unread #1 - Feb 20, 2011 at 3:04 AM
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    what produces prejudice, evil people or twisted society?

    i argue that it is both

    there are certain types of people who are susceptible to prejudiced views and discriminative behavior.

    but also, much prejudice is aligned along racial, cultural, spiritual and political lines. a derogation of an outgroup implies a belonging to an ingroup. prejudice serves to protect the ingroup in some cases. in others, prejudice can help one belong to a social group.

    obviously there are individual and environmental factors that lead to prejudice.

    how much do you think both sides factor into most prejudice?

    what are the problems in investigating the personality types or individual factors that may contribute to prejudice?
     
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    what produces prejudice, evil people or twisted society?

    I think some times prejudice is earned, i have nothing but disdain for most australian aboriginals in central queensland, i grew up around them, the reasons i dislike them are firm.
    Some times its warrented.
    Every one makes so much of the fact that a police officer is more likely to shoot a minority, few people point out that police officer is also more likely to be shot by that minority.
     
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    what produces prejudice, evil people or twisted society?

    I don't understand what you're asking, honestly.Prejudice does not make a person evil or twisted. It's simply a matter of opinion. The problem starts when there is a lack of justification behind said opinion.
     
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    what produces prejudice, evil people or twisted society?

    You're being a complete racist right now. The reason that immigrants (i.e., non-Caucasian Americans) are generally more impoverished than your average white American can be related directly to the 1700s/1800s.

    When we came over from Europe (mostly from England), we were obviously extremely racist. If you weren't a white European (and even if you are, in some cases), you pretty much had no opportunity to succeed. If an entire race is hardly given opportunities for generations upon generations, their chances of succeeding (especially in a capitalistic economy) are very low. Before you go slandering other races and making assumptions that aren't necessarily true, think about what you've been given since the Europeans came to America compared to people of different heritage.

    Racism is plain stupid. It's a primitive, regressive, and is just a way for people to feel "right" about their own flaws.
     
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    what produces prejudice, evil people or twisted society?

    You wrote a book about why they are more likely to commit crimes..
    They are more likely to commit them.
    If i have more chance to be shot by a columbian drug dealer, i am more likely to shoot that columbian drug dealer, the reason why he is a drug dealer doesnt come into the equasion.
    I am not slandering a race im stating facts, i judge no one before i meet them in person, however statistics dont lie.
    There are more african americans committing crimes by percentile then whites.
    So racial profiling makes sense.
    If my county has a problem with mexican drug runners it would make sense the majority of people i pull over to search would be heavily tattoed mexicans, not white middle class bmw driving business men.
     
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    what produces prejudice, evil people or twisted society?

    ^ This.

    Also, keep in mind that no one is claiming that Caucasians don't commit crimes. If you have an area that is heavily populated by Whites, The whites will be the ones committing the crimes. If you have an area heavily populated by Blacks, It will be the black committing the crimes. Its all about the population and community.


    Prejudice doesn't spawn from evil, or a twisted society. It's simply something that someone comes to gather on knowledge and experiences. If a black woman is raped by a white man, She is likely to feel a prejudice toward the White men. And vice versa. Rather than hating men, she will find the difference and hate that more. It stems from only using a small part of our brain for comprehension.
     
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    what produces prejudice, evil people or twisted society?

    common misconception.

    they are convicted of more crimes than white people but there is no evidence showing that they actually commit more crimes than white people do.

    the reason you think they commit more crimes is because they are more publicized, they are noticed more readily and when white people commit a crime they arent seen in terms of their race or their behavior is so stereotypically inconsistent that it is rejected.

    for example,
    you see a black guy steal a car
    you think:
    gee, that is consistent with my prejudice towards black people. i guess i have more reason to believe this misconception is true.

    you see a white guy steal a car.
    you think:
    oh my god that guy is stealing a car. hmmm i should call 911.
    in other words, you view him in terms of more individuating features and not his race.


    another example:
     
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    what produces prejudice, evil people or twisted society?

    The only stats we have is convictions, convictions say black men are more likely to commit crimes.
    I go off of statistics, not guesswork.
    Untill you have statistics showing most white men steal cars and get let off im going to have to go with the facts.
     
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    what produces prejudice, evil people or twisted society?

    you make flawed inferences though.

    the fact that black people get convicted of more crimes than white people only shows that black people are more likely to get convicted of crime than white people.

    indeed, this has been proven through research.

    i can dig up the study if you wish.
    it showed that:

    in a hypothetical court case, people were more likely to convict a man if he was black.
    they gave two groups almost identical court cases. the only difference was the mans race.
     
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    what produces prejudice, evil people or twisted society?

    Do you have any idea how many court cases they would have to do with how many different sets of jurors to make me find the study to be anything but garbage?
    Quite a lot.
    Again, lets only look at violent crimes, ones no one is getting off for with enough evidence..
    Still more convictions of african americans.
     
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    what produces prejudice, evil people or twisted society?

    you have proven i cannot use logic to win this debate.

    please, check your sentence structure before posting.

    PS. if the study is good enough for the scientific community, it does not really matter to me whether it is good enough for you.
     
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    what produces prejudice, evil people or twisted society?

    A guy who doesnt know capitalization is commenting on my sentence structure?
    Gtfo of here with your ad hominems.
    Show me a study that shows that that study is accepted by the scientific community?
     
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    what produces prejudice, evil people or twisted society?

    is this a serious post??


    i was not derogating you by pointing out your bad grammar. i was just asking you to use better grammar. it was hard for me to read this:

    "Again, lets only look at violent crimes, ones no one is getting off for with enough evidence.."

    and people do get off with overwhelming evidence against them quite regularly.


    also, does lack of capitalization detract from the legibility of my posts?

    now, seeing as i cannot produce any evidence that you will believe, I am going to save myself from a whole lot of illogical reasoning and emotional appeals by disregarding any and all posts i see your name in.

    good day.
     
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    what produces prejudice, evil people or twisted society?

    Im sorry, i assumed you were not stupid and that you would be able to understand what i wrote, my fault for making assumptions.
    And please do ignore my posts, you have brought nothing coherant anyway.
     
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