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  1. Unread #21 - Feb 14, 2011 at 5:50 PM
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    To all atheists:

    So be religious because a book tells you to?

    Agnostics are so passive btw
     
  3. Unread #22 - Feb 14, 2011 at 7:53 PM
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    To all atheists:

    I don't like religion because it divides everyone instead of bringing people together.

    Religion often contradicts itself and has some pretty stupid rules.

    For example, if a gay man suddenly discovers the cure for breast cancer, aids, and other cancer, guess what, he's still going to hell because he's gay in religious standards.

    Religion is often taken out of context and is used to control the masses and pick on the weak.

    Religion has no meaning, and it is a joke.



    By the way, I believe in god, just not in some damn books HUMANS all wrote, which only serves their own self-interests.
     
  5. Unread #23 - Feb 15, 2011 at 6:03 AM
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    To all atheists:

    1 Timothy 2:12 "But I permit not a woman to teach,, nor to have dominion over a man."

    The bible promotes sexism.

    1 Samuel 15:3 "Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass."

    The bible promotes genocide.

    John 6:54 "He that eateth my flesh and drinketh my blood hath eternal life: and I will raise him up at the last day."

    The bible promotes cannibalism.



    As of present our society condemns ALL of these acts.

    I just don't understand some blind followers of a religion. Do half of them even realize their sacred scriptures preach?

    I have heard the argument the bible is not to be taken literally.
    Well for thousands of years it was, what is the difference between now and then? The most obvious difference being we have become more scientifically and technologically advanced worldwide, as well as the world population has increased exponentially.

    With our society to put it bluntly getting smarter, gee I wonder why religion is on the decline.
     
  7. Unread #24 - Feb 16, 2011 at 3:59 AM
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    To all atheists:

    I love when people say that... It's like "Ok, so you believe in a God because the book states this and this and this, and you follow Jesus because it says this... but... it's not to be taken literally?"

    You can't pick and choose arguments in relation to one topic. It's all or nothing. Either all of the book is to be taken literally, or none of it is. Either way, you lose.
     
  9. Unread #25 - Feb 16, 2011 at 11:10 PM
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    Well, I agree. However, I would toss out the whole it's meant to be a symbol.

    To the guy that posted above Deacon who I forgot to quote:
    You can support anything with the bible if you just take it out of context. Some of what you put in there is not meant to be taken literally, as stated above, it is symbolic.

    As for sexism, what's wrong with it?
     
  11. Unread #26 - Feb 17, 2011 at 4:20 AM
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    To all atheists:

    I don't lose because, I said I have heard that argument from Christians. I never gave a definitive standpoint on whether the bible should or should not be taken literally.

    That being said IF YOU DO take it literally you agree to all the things to bible preaches, such as genocide, sexism, etc.

    That being IF YOU DON'T well good for you, then why do you believe in Christianity?

    Not taken out of context? So genocide is ok if God says so. That is the exact context. If someone is really nasty to you, it's ok to murder them? If an organisation does something you strongly disagree then you destroy them? That's borderline terrorism is it not?

    Some of it is not meant to be taken literally? I agree, a lot of it isn't meant to be taken literally I only chose 3 controversial quotes out of 1000's.

    Gender Discrimination is illegal. I'm not saying that we don't have pre judgemental positions against women, I'm just saying that if you follow what the bible says you'll break the law.
     
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    Maybe, but if you were really a good person you don't need the promise of heaven to persuade you.
     
  15. Unread #28 - Feb 19, 2011 at 10:06 PM
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    On what day did god create the fossils?

    What did the carnivores eat on the ark?

    If god is omnipotent why is he limited to one son?
     
  17. Unread #29 - Feb 19, 2011 at 10:12 PM
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    Humans have developed mechanisms to keep the species from turning on each other enmass, empathy is one of these.
    You dont have to believe in a god to feel bad one when some one else has something bad happen to them, its hardwired into the human personality.
    People who lack empathy (Sociopaths, psychopaths etc) are the minority and are distrusted and disliked by any who can see through the mask the invariably wear.
     
  19. Unread #30 - Feb 19, 2011 at 11:34 PM
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    In my complete honest opinion, and I quote. MY OPINION, religion is only but just a crutch. I was raised to believe in Jesus Christ, the ten commandments but riddle me this, how much of your life are you wasting by going to church, being preached to the same thing over and over again? A lot. When I was being raised to believe in this for the first 10 years of my life, it was almost as if I already seen the big picture at 10 years old. Most people don't know what it's like to be FORCED into religon, christianity to say the least. You wake up on a Sunday, early in the morning and you don't want to go to church because you don't understand what it means, but yet you are still forced to do it and the only thing you can do is go along with it. Everyday I would go there looking at the clock just waiting to get out. Just like high schoolers would do in EVERY single class period. It got to the point where I couldn't take it anymore and my dad is very understanding but I guess you could say that he never knew that I disliked going to church so much and I told him I'm tired of it. And he understood and kept making me go for about another week or so I guess and then I finally laid into him and he stopped. I was done with church and have been since. At the point I was then very confused and I had thought my whole life that there was something that EVERYBODY had to believe in, and thats not true you can go through life and not believe in a damn thing and still be a normal, curtious human-being and live life to the fullest and NOT as if it's your last day. As I was saying though.. after being lead to believe in Christianity and no longer wanting to do that I felt as if I needed to believe in something and began watching Anderson cooper on television and Bill Maher who made some VERY valid points but are they true? I didn't know. But I began to believe that I WAS becoming an athiest, or some sort of Agnostic person. Later on I just realized that I need to make my own decisions on what to believe in and not what everybody else told me to believe in.

    What I'm getting at with this short story is that kids are going through this everyday and being raised to be a peaceful, good-hearted person but being deprived from seeing the rest of what a child, teenager should see, be a part-of. Am I saying this is a bad thing? No, absolutely not. But people got to look at this from both ends and not just one. Put yourself in others shoes and look at the big picture, discussing these things should just purely be discussing it, and thats it.


    If you are having a hard time understanding what my point, or moral of this is; I'm trying to say in a discreet way that you should not base your religion/opinions/beliefs in what other people say.. such as, Andersoon Cooper, Bill Maher so on and so forth. Because later on it will just bite you in the ass. Yes this may difficult for you to understand but later on it will make sense to you.

    /my2cents
     
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    I dont think religion in any way raises people to be peaceful and good natured, the thiest majorities in every prison will testify to this fact.
     
  23. Unread #32 - Feb 20, 2011 at 12:12 PM
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    To all atheists:

    I just believe that religion hurts the world more than it benefits it.

    Look at all the genocides, the Holocaust, every day murders. A large portion of them have religion involved. Look at the Middle East. It is all religion.

    I have a belief in God, but I don't have a belief in religion.
     
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    The Holocaust had nothing to do with religion.
     
  27. Unread #34 - Feb 20, 2011 at 8:50 PM
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    It did, with the Jews.
     
  29. Unread #35 - Feb 20, 2011 at 9:04 PM
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    Hah seriously?
     
  31. Unread #36 - Feb 20, 2011 at 10:35 PM
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    Yes seriously, hitler didnt care for religion, he wanted to annihilate the jews as a RACE, not a religion, the same race that now inhabits israel.
    And it had nothing to do with religion, jews in germany in those days refused to work manuel labour and owned most of the banks, they were slowly taking over the country and hitler took extreme measures to try to eradicate them.
    He was an insane man and he made a terrible mistake but it was not based on religion.
    The jewish race exists outside of the jewish religion.
     
  33. Unread #37 - Feb 20, 2011 at 10:45 PM
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    I love the 13 year olds posting here flaming other people's beliefs. *claps*
    If someone is Christian, who cares? This is what will probably start the next war. People with hatred trying to convince others to become atheists. And OP, how are you agnostic if you are all towards Christianity? Seems to me someone is hiding themselves, who cares?
     
  35. Unread #38 - Feb 21, 2011 at 8:23 AM
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    Saying that people will do bad things if there is no God, implies that Christianity is based upon fear of God which undermines the concepts of love and a relationship that it promotes. I personally believe that Religion is extremely important as it has shaped values since the dawn of time, however I believe God is a product of mankind.
     
  37. Unread #39 - Feb 21, 2011 at 8:41 AM
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    To all atheists:

    I do believe that religion has been important in history. Simply most people were weak minded, and could only find purpose in life by following a religion.

    That being said when you dumb religion down all it is, is a synonym for the word "belief" When you think about it thats what religion promotes, your belief in God.

    Thats all I personally believe religion is. How it got such a negative stigma attached to it is not through religion, but through man. Religion has arguably brought upon more bad than good in society, ranging from the Crusades of England to the Jihads of today. People justify radical acts in the name of religion aka, there own personal beliefs.

    I find this the main reason why people condemn and associate religion as negative.
     
  39. Unread #40 - Feb 21, 2011 at 7:31 PM
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    To all atheists:

    I am leaving my comment at this.
    I don't want to get fuelled up in a Religious debate.

    But being Atheist DOES NOT make you a bad person.
    I know plenty of religious people that are, well, bad people...
    They steal, cheat, lie.

    You know Hitler was Christian right?

    All of these terrorists are doing what they do BECAUSE OF religion.

    Many, many, many wars are due to religion.

    How many wars have you seen started by an Atheist?

    0!

    You should be a good person because YOU WANT TO. Not because you HAVE TO.
    That is not what makes a person good.

    I live my life by simple rules.
    Don't steal from others.
    Don't hurt others. (Unless they start it.. and even then...)
    Don't lie.
    And live my life to the fullest.

    There is no god, so stop wasting your life worrying, at church, and attempting to "please him."

    Just live your life dammit!

    Watch this youtube video.
    If your religious, maybe if will open your eyes.
    If you're atheist, it's a good laugh :)

     
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