Believers in God

First off, let me start by stating that I'm not trying to disprove religion, I know that every person has their own choices, beliefs and lifestyles which they are entitled to.

But one thing has played on my mind;

How can god justify killing thousands of people in one swipe? How does he justify that? Why would something so evil be a trait of your saviour?

 

Can you provide an example?

 

Well now let's see, earthquakes, floods, volcanos, fires, oh and thousands of people dying in third world countries.

 

I assume your talking about natural disasters. They aren't the work of god, and even if they were we as humans can't comprehend why. And shouldn't since we can't, even though we all try.

 

God doesn't cause any of those things. I don't know what 3rd world countries your talking about but most of the deaths are because of other people. God can't stop someone from doing something.

 

then he is not god.
god is omnipotent.

if you say he cannot do something then you cant be talking about the god of the bible.

 

1 Samuel 15:3 "Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass."

 

First off don't bold something if I didn't, you were taking a quote. Yes, I agree with you.

 

Next time research that quote before you blurt it out. The Amalekites were a group of Egyptians who attacked the Israelites. They had a history of it.They didn't have any remorse for what they were doing. They didn't fear God. Yes, you could say God was cruel but I think your just picking the small details of the Bible.

 

i bet if he gave you a quote about biblical racism you would tell us to research before blurting it out.
you would say that back then it was ok to use racism.

i bet you would go as far as to say that racism in the bible is simply "picking the small details."

 

If you disagree with me thats fine. Where is the racism in that verse?

 

If a man hits his slave hard enough to keep him down for a day or two, but the slave gets back up, “he shall not be punished: for he is his money” (Exodus 21:21)

 

I tend to find genocide a phase above cruel don't you?

 

I'm done arguing. If you want to know more about this go to your local church, I'm sure someone can answer the question.

 

I already did in religion class, the teacher kept me behind.

 

he speaks as if he is in a privileged position.

funny how in reality he is throwing in the towel because he doesnt have any more logical points to make.

seriously, saying that it is ok to slaughter an entire people as long as they are "remorseless".

also, killing an entire people without remorse is not considered remorseless in the eyes of gods children.

 

well i dont really know what to beleive in..... so i trusty my eyes and what i see - divine intervention an miracles are hard to argue with because some things cannot be explained !

 

Name something a case of divine intervention that has taken place in the past... 50 years?

As for seeing is believing.

Do you think? Prove it.
Can you see time? Why do you believe it.

 

The same can be asked to the Muslim extremists.


If God is in fact the creator, he can do as he see's fit. If you look at it like that, its one of those if I built it, I can destroy it, type things. I'm sure as a kid your parents said to you at some point or you've heard it, "I brought you into this world and I can take you out". Now that isn't in the literal sense (in most cases) but if God does exist I'm sure that is the way that it works. Many of the reasons thousands of people get killed in the bible have very clear reasoning behind them. There is no secret that God can be merciful, but no where in the Bible does it state that he is generally a merciful God. If you believe, you are supposed to live by his code of ethics placed in the Bible. If you do not you are sent to burn in Hell for eternity. There doesn't sound like theres much mercy in that, if you ask me.


Don't get me wrong, I am a Christian. A baptist infact. I have read through the Bible, I haven't finished it and don't claim to have. But I respect all points of view like it is asked of me in the Bible.

There is, however, one point of view that I cannot see eye to eye on, Muslim extremism. I know plenty of good people who are Muslim, but the extremists are generally the ones who commit martyrdom. Examples being 9/11 and stoning people inside of generally Muslim countries for dis-obeying the Muslim religion. In the Bible, God justifies his own killings, but asks that the people not do it for him. It is considered a sin, against the Biblical religious code.

I haven't looked much into the religion of Islam so I'm not quite sure what that pertains to in scope of all this.


Anyway, thats my look at it. I'm not bashing the Muslims nor am I justifying any killings what so ever. Its not my place to do so.

 

im Catholic Christian. There are people who are called 'Biblicists' (i think thats the word) that believe everything from the bible. They don't believe in the big bang. The think that God makes natural disasters to test out faith.

Thats what I learnt in religion.