Make it harder to Become an OMM

Nope that would be silly

Agree

Maybe as an alternate to 2 350+ trades have the option to do an extra 6 200+ to substitute

I think I did like 12 MMs today lol its really insane.

Scamming is also feed by paypal though if it wasn't so easy it wouldn't be so common. yea I get your point firez about higher trades.

OMM's will still be made and It will still be alot quicker then before the free trade update.

I really don't get what your getting at lol.

I think 300-400 is a big enough increase for the mean time

I like your first one more than your 2nd but maybe something like

5 trades up to $100
10 trades between $100 - $200
10 Trades $200 - $300
5 Trades $300+

Higher trades shows someones true character better, It's also still obtainable and I'm sure most people wanting to do this could finish in a few weeks with ease.

 

I like the last one you just posted, it would at least show they are trusted enough with those amounts now that its very easy to finish the application.

Support.

 

app is ok as with the boom in trade's there is also a huge boom in people being MM only the most trusted will get most job's because of the variety avaiable, like cosrob said he could of done 5 in a nite that's because he's proven unlike new comer's who will get over shadowed by the more trusted member's plus the app isnt over once completed nick has final say and as of late doe's seem pretty hard to get his approval but i don't know

 

See I though about that I seen someone MMing trade with 13 vouches and I know you may think ouch but I personally would try him out with small trades just to see what he's like. Trust does make you a more ideal choice, sure, but everyone starts at the bottom. You don't go from leecher to guru in a night and if you do something is fishy. Also it all depends on the time you choose to MM.


Anyway, anyone have any more comments for this?

 

15 trades up to $100
10 trades between $100 - $200
5 Trades $200 - $300
2 Trades $300+

I think this would be great. The 15 trades for up to $100 could be simple trades such as Upgrades/10M-30M sells. Those could be done very quickly. The 10 trades of $100-$200 could be a mixture of high level account trade swaps and 100M-200M GP sells/Item sells. The trades above $200+ would be high valued trades usually in the 100-138+ Main Section or Gp sells. If you devote 3-5 hours a day to MMing, I think it's possible to have the OMM application done within a month or two, depending on current amount of vouches/reputation. However, even if someone new manages to complete the application within 2-3 weeks, they always will have the chance of being voted against for the OMM poll, so getting the proofs isn't everything.

 

Ad hominem.

That said, I support increasing the requirements.

Either way they have to be reviewed before becoming one so a change isn't necessary. As an addendum I doubt that people would actually garner the MMs that fast as people don't just pick random newly registered members to MM but opt for more experienced members - it'd be far more likely that some of those would be self vouches if they complete the OMM application requirements in a very speedy fashion.

 

I believe that the overall number of trades one must mediate should be increased as well, not just their dollar amounts. Like many have said, an application can be completed in mere days. This should not happen. The process of completing such an application in order to be publicly endorsed by the website should take several weeks, in my opinion.

However, the method by which applications are accepted weeds out many of the wild cards that manage to finish them.

 

I strongly oppose this idea, so much so that if it's changed I would no longer go for OMM. Just because there is an increase in MM activity does not mean the requirements for OMM need to go up. Just because I can do all the trades in one day that someone else did over the period of 2 months does not change the fact that I did the same as them. Why should they get special treatment because it was harder for them to find trades to OMM?

If this is going to happen, I vote to remove applications, and just make it a free to join rank for anyone that completes the requirements. That's basically what you're saying. No more voting for OMMs, instead, let's just approve everyone who can't meet the needs.

No, that's dumb. Keep the requirements the same, make application APPROVAL more difficult. >.>

 

Lets face it, OMM's arent just based on the proofs, Cosrob97 has complete 2 applications and is working on his 3rd.

I think globals/The head middleman would notice that a user has only been MMing for 48 hours to require the amount they have, all aspects of the user is most likely taken into account, how they act around the forum, they're maturity, etc.

 

Just increase the reqs by percent, like, idk, lets say 30%(both amount of trades and cash).

 

I'd say this:
10 trades up to $100
10 trades between $100 - $200
3 Trades $200 - $300
2 Trades $300+

 

Exactly, something I fully agree with you on.

 

Guys when we vote on OMM's, proofs is the farthest thing from my mind. Nick has already checked them so I vote based upon how much we trust that said person.

 

Again, exactly... so why is increasing the requirements even close to necessary? You retain the same requirements, and if someone doesn't meet your 'trust' standards, they don't get OMM, no matter if they've been MMing for a day or a year.

E: I propose that you set forth a 'Bare Minimum' for application requirements. Those that go above and beyond will have higher chances, while those who just complete the necessary proofs can still submit their application... it doesn't necessarily mean it will be accepted.

 

Isn't that basically the system we have now? Why not increase the application requirements to better match the exponentially more difficult acceptance process? At the very least, requiring a greater number and variety of trades would only portray the applicant's character and trade habits even more.

 

I'll be the asshole to state the obvious and say that it's unfair. By REQUIRING more proofs you're not providing equal opportunity. Making it more difficult is unnecessary, just up your standards of OMM's.

Instead, tell people that there's a bare minimum to send in your application (the requirements we have now) and just have the current voting team increase their standards of the individual.

By not having current OMM's reapply, and instead make the requirements higher, you're basically creating a barrier between old and new omm's. Whereas the old ones didn't have to work as hard because the requirements were easier in their days... and new OMM's had to work harder than the current OMM's. It's retarded.


Time isn't the factor here. Time is free as you're already spending it playing games on a forum. What is a factor here is the amount of money handled and the quality of trades conducted. If someone spends 3 years meeting the requirements today of being a middleman, they should have the same consideration as someone who spent 3 days. No one should be punished because of how quickly they can complete their application.

 

Extending an OMM application's requirements does exactly that, but in a more formal manner than keeping it in the dark.

This system is already in place. Again, increasing the requirements does exactly this.

Times change. Their application requirements may seem easier than the ones currently being proposed, but it is all proportional with the availability of middleman opportunities.

Consideration should be based on the amount of effort put into the application, as well as the person's character and such. I'm tacking on a suggestion that the the application process should make it nearly impossible to meet all standards within a few days, not judge people based on how long they took to complete all of the requirements.

 

I think you're letting your personal feelings/goals skew your take on what's actually being proposed. Before free-trade was reinstated it would take longer to fulfill the requirements whereas now it's much easier to garner them.

The people who painstakingly gathered their MMs could just as easily (and fallaciously) argue that it's not fair as it took them X weeks whereas now it could take X hours.

 

Exactly the points i raised - There is nothing wrong with the current application.. as all the OMM's are doing a fine job.

Changing the application are just going to make future OMM's lazy to even apply in the first place.