Black Market Account Sales Divided Properly (Pures/Mains)

Well, I'm sure we can all agree that the Black Market for accounts are a big mess of mains in the pure sections, and "pures" that aren't really pures.

I already suggested this, a year back, and a thread was implented. As you can see below, which was defining a pure, according to "i mahatma i"'s definition.

http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=681543

That thread contains almost 100 supporters for this. And since it was already implented, I see no reason for it to not be re-implented.



Basically, what I suggest implenting, is stronger enforcement in the Black Market. OR! Even simpler, clearer subforum titles.

Here is the definition of a pure, written by i mahatma i:

i Mahatma i's Definition of RS2 Pure
Since some of you guys still don't understand what a pure is here I took the liberty of finding someone who can explain it in a greater depth than I can. This post come from the PK-ing forum on the runescape website.

===---My Definition Of "Pure"---===

OK this thread was alive a while ago with like 1k posts but it fell off the forums after a while. I seen a lot of people asking "what is a pure" again, or people who have incorrect information on this. I had the text saved on my computer, so I will copy and paste it, making a few changes.

This is I Mahatma I, aka Sn1p3r Twigs, and MANY other names (some secret). I have been using pure chars since before July 2002 (that was last secret word change on my oldest pure). With around 3 years of experience using pure accounts I have grown to know the world of "pures" quite well. I will try to share that info with you all.

Firstly, this is a "pure" definition based on the rs2 combat system. It is very similar to that of RSC, but in rsc magic was an independant stat also (this is explained more below). But this guide is specifically for the definition and explanation of pures in rs2, the world of runescape as we know it.

Post 1 - Intro & Table Of Contents
Post 2 - Combat Formula & Independant/Dependant Stats
Post 3 - Definition of a Pure
Post 4 - Examples of Pure Builds

===---The Combat Formula---===

Before I define "pure", I first must explain how the combat system works. This is the formula I use, it is 99% accurate, but has sometimes been off by about 0.05 of a combat level.
< is less than
> is greater than
x is multiplied

Melee Formula:
(Attack + Strength) > (Magic x 1.5)
(Attack + Strength) > (Ranged x 1.5)
Combat Level = [(Attack + Strength) x 0.325] + (Defence x 0.25) + (Hp x 0.25) + (Prayer x 0.125)

Magic Formula:
(Magic x 1.5) > (Attack + Strength)
(Magic x 1.5) > (Ranged x 1.5)
Combat Level = [(Magic x 1.5) x 0.325] + (Defence x 0.25) + (Hp x 0.25) + (Prayer x 0.125)

Ranged Formula:
(Ranged x 1.5) > (Attack + Strength)
(Ranged x 1.5) > (Magic x 1.5)
Combat Level = [(Ranged x 1.5) x 0.325] + (Defence x 0.25) + (Hp x 0.25) + (Prayer x 0.125)

===---Independant & Dependant Stats---===

Now, if you look at the above 3 formulas, you will notice that they are the same EXCEPT for the first part in the [square brackets]. This portion in the sqaure brackets is what U call the DEPENDANT part of the equation, which brings me to my explanation of dependant and independant stats.

Dependant Stats: Attack+Strength, Magic, and Ranged. These stats effect your combat level depending on the other dependant stats. These are the stats that are a "pure"s best friend.

Independant Stats: Defence, Hitpoints, Prayer. These stats will ALWAYS effect your combat level. These are the stats that make you "impure".

===---What is a "Pure"?---===

With the knowledge of dependant/independant stats, you can now understant what a "pure" is:

A "pure" has HIGH dependant stats, and LOW independant stats. The lower your independant stats are, the more "pure" you are.

^^ THAT IS IT! THAT IS HOW TO DEFINE A "PURE" ^^

It is up to a matter of opinion what "high" and "low" is that makes up each persons individual opinion on pures. I personally consider Defence Above 1 high, Prayer Above 34 high, and hitpoints is just what it is.

===---Examples of Pure Builds---===

Now I will give a few examples of common character stat-builds that are often referred to as "pures".

TRUE PURE: This pure has only dependant skills, and NO independant skills. I had (not anymore because I raised hitpoints on it) a char that was a good example of a true pure. It was 70 ranged, 70 magic, 1 defence, 1 prayer, 10 hitpoints and combat 36 (Before you asked, train ranged with cannon, magic with curse/confuse/weaken).

REAL PURE: We all know it is hard to train without getting Hitpoints exp, so this is a real pure. The only independant stat they have is hitpoints. The best example of a real pure is sw0rd (name edited, wants to keep low profile) with 99 strength, 93 magic, 76 ranged, 60 attack, 1 defence, 1 prayer, 88 hitpoints, 73 combat.

PRAYER PURE: Also known as the "Prayer Beast". This type of pure has Hitpoints and Prayer (up to 43) as their only independant stats. The best example of a prayer pure is Volcanic Fox with 99 strength, 99 attack, 95 hitpoints, 45 Prayer (43-45 didn't raise combat), 1 defence, 93 combat.

Those are just a few of the common builds of "pures". There are many, and people can customize their stats and still maintain a good "purity" level.


Just remember the golden rule of pures:
A "pure" has HIGH dependant stats (attack+strength, magic, and ranged), and LOW independant stats (prayer, hitpoints, defence). THE LOWER YOUR INDEPENDANT STATS ARE, THE MORE "PURE" YOU ARE!

 

i agree we should change the stickies abit for the "Pures/Skillers"

Support the idea

 

I'm just incredibly tired of people calling their 95 defence main a pure.. or stuff like that

 

Agree, although I make sure I close every thread in Pures and Skillers (100-138) that is not a pure at least every day.

 

That is indeed an improvement from when I were last here.

The only mod who had an idea what a pure was, was Chase. I had to send him thread links personally, for them to be dealt with...

It's just so simple, I have no idea how people can continue to fail at posting properly.

The highest defence level that pure clans allow, is 35. That is the absolute max, and only one pure clan, allows 35.

So, zerkers and barrows and 95 def pures and what-not should be in mains ;>

 

http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=962512

Greg made it, I just re inforce it.

 

Could a copy of that thread be stickied in each of the pure forums?

(If a defence limit of 35 could be added in all pure sections aswell, it would be awesome...)

 

I put it in the 60-99, where else would you like it?

 

(Insert inappropriate body part here)

But how about the last pure section? The 3-59 one? Then We'd have full coverage..

After this is added, (If you plan on adding that)

Could you close the thread? Then I'll make a new suggestion, being that anything over 35 defence should be put in mains.. Glad you're helping out though.

 

All done

PM me when you got the new suggestion

 

I disagree with you about Zerkers not being pures as it depends on the stats, if you have a zerker, with 60 attack, 99 strength 45 defence, I would classify that as a pure as many people do although anything above that isn't a pure, so I would say 45 def is the maximum def for a pure, but it also depends on the other stats...Like Pure str zerker, with 99 str..

 

None of the pure clans accept 45 def.. The max is 35...

 

Yes but a pure clan doesn't define a pure... I could make my own pure clan now which accepts 45 def...

 

But then it wouldn't be a pure clan ..:> Then it would be a zerker clan. Just as much as a barrows pker isn't a barrows pure...

 

I agree with this idea. It's a little confusing to newcomers... having two "mains" forums.