Botting is safe, don't kid yourselves.

Discussion in 'RuneScape 3 Cheating' started by NevermindMe, Jan 26, 2011.

Botting is safe, don't kid yourselves.
  1. Unread #1 - Jan 26, 2011 at 3:57 PM
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    Botting is safe, don't kid yourselves.

    Alright, well, let me just open up this topic by saying botting is safe.It seems day after day, people are always either complaining about bots, trying to report bots to get them banned, setting up 'bot traps' and just overall trying to convince people botting is not safe.

    Myself, being a botter for around a year, have botted 21 99's between various accounts, and I have never had an account banned.Most of the people who do get banned, are more than likely either -
    A) Using Powerbot scripts which do not involve random camera movements, stat checks, multiple walking paths, etc.
    B) Get stuck in random events for long periods of time, or have a bot stand still for a long period of time
    C) Suicide bot to much and get banned.

    I've been using paid scripts ever since I started botting, I've botted over 500Million GP - A maxed zerker with 9 99's, a maxed melee 132 with 9 99's, a maxed melee main with 4 99's, and a level 3 with 99 crafting, so I suppose 23 99's.

    The moral of the story is, don't use bad bots, don't suicide bot all of the time, use scripts that include
    - Random camera movement
    - Stat checks
    - Multiple clicking, walking, paths
    - Doesn't use straight lines
    - Doesn't move super fast.
    Also, the good botting technology hardly ever (usually not at all) interracts with the runescape client in terms of coding (or something like that). For more information, look below.







    precision. Consider the dartboard as an example:
    The goal is to simply "hit it." A human will still aim for the bullseye, to increase the chance of hitting
    the dartboard. Thus hits will be concentrated towards the bullseye, but there will still be hits
    nowhere close, and some misses too.
    A macro does not have human flaws, and can always hit the dartboard. However, if randomized in
    the "area of uncertainty" there is no such pattern."
    This will also raise the alarm. More advanced yet, some macros will actually form concentric regions
    of where the clicks will land. Still, we're always ahead of rulebreakers. Our final line of defense in this
    criteria is to analyze the regions most commonly clicked.
    A macro tends to click in a perfect square, circle, or sometimes the shape of an interface icon.
    Sometimes even the region is randomized. Human behavior is not truly random however. The region
    most commonly clicked is related to placement, which is all I know about this.
    Highly advanced bots have made an attempt to replicate even this, but we have not seen anything
    convincing yet. Admittedly, we're disadvantaged in this aspect, so we cannot fully rely on simple
    movement and accuracy to detect a macro program.
    The next criteria is the actual sequence of actions. A player that decides to cut some trees for logs,
    and sell them for profit actually has a longer list of actions to perform than you'd think. The efficiency
    of which this is completed can be analyzed, and much more easily compared to the behavior of a
    macro programs' attempt to replicate it.
    If each step is merely randomized with the same bounds of uncertainty like virtually all bots seem to
    do today, the actual time it takes to execute the actions in all converges to a specific value! It's
    similar to flipping a fair coin multiple times, and converging to a frequency of outcomes (namely
    50%.) Humans are generally much less consistent, and once the consistency falls within a certain
    range, the alarm is raised.
    One more of many criteria is the effect of total gameplay time. As expected, exhaustion will set in for
    most players and slow down their actions. This is not a completely reliable method, since some
    players have been able to keep up their concentration for remarkably long periods of time."
    "The last criteria I really know of is probably the most obscure and advanced. Human players tend to
    have much better object recognition capabilities than a macro program, and the limitations of the
    procedure can be exploited. While a human may be able to recognize a tree at a very unusual and
    discrete angle, many macros lack this capability, and thus keep the camera angle within a certain
    range. Some fail to change it entirely.
    Macros tend to locate objects that are far out of reach by going close to the area in question, and
    then finding it. Normal players tend to look ahead first.
    There are probably many more techniques employed, and the genius and innovative capability of my
    coworkers is simply amazing. I am very confident in their ability to enforce the rules, and keep RS a
    fair, and equal environment. The detection system is definitely conducive to such, but that is not our
    only method.
    The next is abuse reports. There are many new and better bots, just written, that can avoid at a few
    of the criteria, and not be flagged. The intuition of a human being can never be surpassed, and abuse
    reports give us an all seeing eye that brought many rule breakers to justice. Abuse reports are also
    helpful for locating the archives, and comparing the new behavior of the new macro that was
    previously able to avoid detection. We can update accordingly.
    We highly encourage abuse reporting, and we will not punish players who send in reports with a
    reasonable cause to suspect the player in question is using a macro.
    Circumstances (such as the usual range of playing time) is taken into account as well.

     
  3. Unread #2 - Jan 26, 2011 at 4:50 PM
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    Botting is safe, don't kid yourselves.

    Nice thread, but I botted from 44 - 99 rc on and off, very responsibly but I was still banned.

    Yeah, you can bot safe, but eventually I think everyone will get too confident. I've never heard of anyone getting so many 99's, that's very impressive and well done :).
     
  5. Unread #3 - Jan 26, 2011 at 4:59 PM
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    Botting is safe, don't kid yourselves.

    Thanks for the feedback, I appreciate it.

    I'd just like to add in, I've botted all of my stats using only paid scripts, perfectius and auto_pro series.

    I also bot alot now, I usually do at least 16 hours a day :) Not on my maxed zerker though, because there is still some risk involved.
     
  7. Unread #4 - Jan 26, 2011 at 5:04 PM
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    That was a good read. Paid bots are the way to go. Not the free shit.

    Got a question about Perf Fighter. Is it true you can run multiple bots at the same time with just one auth?

    Also, should I buy PF if I already own AutoFighter Pro?

    Thanks. :p
     
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    Botting is safe, don't kid yourselves.

    I believe you are allowed to up up to 3 perfect fighter bots, at the same time. I'm usually correct with my memory, and I would consider buying the auth. You won't be dissapointed, no matter what you have right now.

    Goodluck :)
     
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    Botting is safe, don't kid yourselves.

    I always tell people I know this, if you bot in moderation (>8 hrs a day) Then you'll be fine as long as you are using paid scripts.

    To username - I would, Perfect fighter is so much better then AutoFighter Pro.
     
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    Botting is safe, don't kid yourselves.

    Any botter with his/her salt, knows all of this shit. I hope you realize there have been like, 5 other topics just like this one?
     
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    I don't think other posts contain the actual information from the player moderator section of the forums? :)

    This isn't from me, it's from another website, but this is the actual information, and that's the point of this thread.
     
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    Botting is safe, don't kid yourselves.

    I 100% agree, you will 99% safe if you try to emulate the actions of a human. Eg. Botting a maximum 10 hours in one day.
     
  21. Unread #11 - Jan 26, 2011 at 6:54 PM
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    Thanks for the useful information, not even I knew this.
     
  23. Unread #12 - Jan 26, 2011 at 8:10 PM
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    Botting is safe, don't kid yourselves.

    I've been doing 20+ hours every day for like the past month, nothing has happened to me. Been using Perfect Fighter.
     
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    thx for da feed back bro
     
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    Botting is safe, don't kid yourselves.

    Well, I got rolled back, I wanted to make this a 'Gp Product' to transfer coins to my Zerker account with the coming of Free Trade.

    To bad I had to get rolled as soon as I started suiciding green dragons, oh well though.

    I'm perfectly fine without giving proof, we know these are real.

    Stats rolled:
    99 Attack - 10
    99 Strength - 10
    99 Defence - 10
    99 Hipoints - 12
    46 Prayer - 10
    35 SLayer - 10
    35 Dungeoneering - 10
     
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    Nice font
     
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    Botting is safe, don't kid yourselves.

    this threads pretty gay, it really depends on what bots you use, and the breaks, etc you use
     
  33. Unread #17 - Jan 27, 2011 at 7:36 AM
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    Botting is safe, don't kid yourselves.

    Lol what? randomly off topic...
    OT: Yeah, I rarely / sometimes bot on an old mod account of mine. I safe bot it only doing 6-8 hours max a day. It hasn't been caught yet, hopefully it never will but it's true as long as you safe bot any account you won't get caught.
     
  35. Unread #18 - Jan 27, 2011 at 10:08 AM
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    Damn bro, that sucks. You weren't using any free bots right?
     
  37. Unread #19 - Jan 27, 2011 at 2:16 PM
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    Botting is safe, don't kid yourselves.

    Nope. But I botted maxed melee + 18Million Strength xp, and 22Million Woodcutting xp, made 175M, etc.

    I still consider what I did pretty good, I botted alot as well, didn't do any stupid 10 hours a day, I was pushing 20 hours a day.
     
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