Drug addiction.

Research chemicals aren't prescription drugs. You can buy these drugs online for the purpose of "lab experiments", but you don't need any license to buy them, just the money.

For example take Ketamine, an illegal drug, then add an oxygen molecule (is molecule the right word?) and it's a legal drug because technically it's a brand new substance.. The same went for MDMA which was sold as Mephedrone, it was MDMA with added atoms making it totally legal, it got so popular that even 9 year old kids were doing it and if they got caught at school they had to get it back at the end of the day, because it was totally legal. This only counts for Europe though, since in America you guys have the drug analogue law (meaning anything that is sold to get you high is illegal), however in England as long as it's not in the classed list you can sell it anywhere you want. This has caused HUGE problems and has killed so many idiots who do lines 2 inches fat and 10 inches long. Trust me, I've seen people stay up for like 2 weeks straight on RCs - they have ruined their lives.

But trust me, the RCs I get are totally pure. I have access to testing kits, and many individuals who inform me of the different batches that are released straight from the guys who cook them in their labs; they try them before me and let me know how they are - these guys have never let me down because they're totally independent from the sources, and are big time dealers on the streets. However they have stopped contact with me recently, which is worrying, but I have quit anyway so to be honest this isn't too bad.

Testing these substances for purity is so basic that a monkey could do it. It's actually silly over here in Europe, you can buy pills that will keep you up for days and buy them online with next day delivery. Basic chemistry has become my downfall, I've even extracted DXM from cough medicine and codeine from pain killers - both take way less than a few hours to do and get you totally fucked up, 100% pure and 100% legal. Some of them are so potent that I can spend about £25 and stay awake for weeks, it may sound like I'm exaggerating but I'm not. We're talking 25mg is a strong dose here, and a gram is like £50, I hope that puts into perspective how powerful these RCs are. Straight from the cooks in China into my nose.

Trust me, pipes are SO much better than joints and blunts. I definitely agree that the occasional blunt gets you totally fucked up, but a few pipe hits to yourself and you'll be just as wasted.

You see all of that smoke coming off the end of your blunt? In a pipe that's going into your lungs, there is literally 0% product lost as long as you smoke properly. Whenever I see someone smoking a pipe with loads of smoke coming out I tell them to smoke less, because it's a total waste of weed.

Be careful with the amount you smoke, it may seem silly but I promise you it can become addictive.

Ugh, posting this has made me crave so bad . My dealer has moved back into town, and he lives literally right next to me. I could call him right now and meet him within a minute, he's a serious guy who doesn't fuck about. I'm actually shaking with withdrawals. Fuck. I don't know what to do. I really, really feel terrible right now. It just feels like £20 is worth calling up and getting a gram, even if it's going to ruin my studies for a week. I think I'm just going to drink myself silly till I pass out and hope I can drag myself to lectures; going hungover is totally better than going spaced out with dilated pupils.

Really struggling right now . I just want to crawl into a ball and die. I feel so pathetic that I've let powder get a grip of me like this. A tiny, tiny line of powder seems worth more than my life right now. Really need someone to vent to, just an ear to chew off with the shit I'm spewing out.

 

Wow I'm an idiot. I thought he was talking about roxy. They're often call RC's around here. I know what you're saying now lol. Same with the shit I get. I've seen it all tested and its all shipped from Cali. It doesn't get any purer than this. A little while back, I was getting this triple dipped acid that I was was selling for $25 a hit. A third of it is all you needed. I am extremely paranoid when buying things and would never buy anything unless I know it's 100% legit. I wouldn't even bother extracting DXM or codeine. It doesn't get you any higher. I do plan on extracting some DMT over the summer though.

I love smoking blunts, but I just can't bring myself to smoke at least $10-20 of loud in one sitting. I don't mind rolling a blunt of mids at a party, but I rarely have mids and when I do, I smoke them in a grav. I hate when people always ask me to match a blunt too lol. Blunts and joints are meant for a lot of people, so you can't really smoke by yourself either. Nothing beats a bong or steamroller anyways. It's so irritating when someone doesn't know how to smoke a piece. My old roommate's friends were the worst. I'd pack a fat bowl of some loud between like 3 people and we'd each get like a hit each. Never light the middle of the bowl and always light it along the edges. You shouldn't even fully touch the flame to the weed. I don't think he really needs be careful. Weed is somewhat addictive, but still easy to quit if you really want.

Man just go smoke some. You need it now more than ever. I usually go to class high and can function just fine. Hangovers are so much worse when in class too.

 

I can't get weed right now, guaranteed all my bud dealers are tucked up in bed. They're useless, fucking stoners. Even the crackheads would be more reliable at this time.

I can get powder though, he's definitely awake because he's addicted himself. It's so cheap that the temptation is overwhelming. Got a litre of Jack Daniels, already had a few shots, planning on a few more then puke and bed.

This is the worst day of withdrawals, I've never had such dark thoughts before. Sometimes I wish I was poor so I could blame this feeling on money, but I've got enough cash here to keep me fucked up for a very long time.

 

Oh shit I thought you said you could. Well that sucks. What kind of powder? What are you withdrawing from exactly?

 

MDMA/amphetamine analogues, and most recently ketamine. I'm thinking I may have serotonin syndrome, or possible I'm feeling this from sleep deprivation.

I'm calling my doctor tomorrow, I don't even care if it takes hours to explain, or what I have to tell him, I just want to feel better.

edit: Had way too much to drink, thinking I can finally sleep. Got to be up in 4 hours to book a doctors appointment, I'll post up how it goes.

 

I haven't had experience with any MDMA analogues. I did ketamine daily for a few months, but never really got addicted. I know the withdrawals are some serious shit though. Damn, serotonin syndrome isn't good. Hopefully that isn't the case. You need to get some weed as soon as possible. Can you get a hold of any benzos? They are a life saver when it comes to withdrawals.

 

benzos dont exist in my country
theyre ony available for serious issues
sorry for my typing im fucked
sleep time
sorry for my posting tonight, soooo depressing to read. things will be different when i wake up i bet.

 

Ahh that sucks. It's pretty easy to get a script in the US as long as you find the right doctor and have insurance. They're also everywhere on the street. They are a miracle drug. They completely kill comedowns and can even kill a bad trip.

Goodnight.

 

You missed the point. I didn't talk about prescription drugs, but research chemicals. People who do them have no standards on quality and the death wasn't because of OD but really just because of impurities =)

Not really a miracle drug, sure they work like they do, but are highly addictive, dangerous, makes you loose all your stuff and fuck up your relationships. The coin has always two sides.

 

Definitely agree with Pshynosis, from what I hear the pharmaceutical industry in America is pretty fucked up. Heard of lots of people getting addicted to opiates after being medicated from accidents, which sure is a problem we have over here in England too, but not on such a huge scale. There was a Valium problem over here, but I don't think that's prescribed any more.

We also can't get pills that we can abuse as easily, but it sounds like it's starting to change in America with the introduction of those OC's that gel up when snorted. Something else happens when trying to shoot them up as well I think, although don't quote me on that because I'm not very educated on OC's.

edit: Awaiting a call from my doctor, but I think they may have taken my number down wrong. Ugh, it's way too early and I'm so hungover, hoping for a late appointment so I can sleep some more.

edit2: Got an appointment booked for this afternoon, meaning I can grab another hour or so of sleep .

 

I used to be in quite a similar situation to yourself, it started with smoking a few joints every now and then but gradually led to me becoming a heavy smoker. Also dabbled in quite a few different things since then, mainly E's, LSD, Meph, speed,coke, and a few prescription drugs.
Since then I only smoke weed occasionally, a few of my friends had a few horror stories when on Meph which made me wise up somewhat. Also cut down my weed usage to a spliff or two a day, which to be honest, I see absolutely no problem with, some people take a nicotine hit or a caffeine hit, I like a bong hit. What's the difference.
Drugs in moderation are not bad, it's when you go over the top with them the problems start.

 

Lol I know. I didn't understand at first. I thought you were talking about roxycontin which are called RC's around where I live. I know what research chemicals are and I definitely don't underestimate them.

I've been doing benzos for over 5 years and I know how addictive they are. The withdrawals are one of the worst too. It's my own fault though because I enjoy getting barred. Though if one were to only take them in the situations that I stated, then there is no reason they should put themselves in danger nor become hooked unless they're retarded and popping several xanax bars. I don't ever take so much that I pass out and forget everything. I rarely take more than 1 bar at once and I've built a tolerance.

I disagree. It's pretty difficult to get scripts, especially opiates, unless you really need them. My best friend's mom has cancer and is prescribed both loratab 10s and xanax bars. She is of course heavily addicted, but she really needs them. I only know one crooked doctor who hands out scripts, but you still need insurance and the first visit is a few hundred dollars.

They only made oxycontin 80mg's tamper proof, so you can only pop them. It caused a lot of problems when it happened. A lot of people getting ripped off and shit. It's pretty stupid though because all other mg's are still the same, so they didn't accomplish anything.

Good Luck

 

Xanax is a terrible thing when people combine it with alcohol. I'm sure we've all heard many, many horror stories about this combination, ranging from waking up in city hundreds of miles away, all the way to death.

Tolerance is a bitch, too.

 

Whats the experience like ?

( Being high on higher class drugs, xanax, coke, etc.)

 

Imagine your most painful problem, like your entire family has just been massacred in front of your eyes, and then imagine instant release like it never happened. Suddenly it's replaced with euphoria, with acceptance, warmth and love.

The best way to describe it is to imagine like you used to feel in school. The scenario is you have a massive exam coming up that could either make or break your life, then you realise that it's not coming up for another year, it feels so far away that you really don't have to care about it.

Then when you comedown you realise that everything is a thousand times worse, every single problem is amplified and the paranoia gets really intense, then you get high again and it repeats.

That's addiction. That first wonderful euphoria is what every addict chases again, whether it be with amphetamines, opiates or barbiturates. Instant release is only temporary, and after years you end up taking your drug of choice to stop feeling sick, instead of feeling high. The nightmare gets worse, it gets to a point that you can't control the demon inside of you, high or not. Anyone who's been addicted knows exactly what I mean, and only when you've fallen down that hole will you feel such regret and depression. The original reason why you got high in the first place seems a million times better, you'd give anything to go back. I'm not even exaggerating, I probably haven't even scratched the surface of the euphoric rush that an IV heroin user would feel.

It got to a point for a friend of mine where he had to bypass the toxicity level for his drug of choice to feel high, that's when he decided to get high one last time and he overdosed. He drowned in his own vomit. His family found him in his room, his younger siblings had to watch as his lifeless corpse was bagged up and taken away.

I've seen people so high that they crawl into a ball and just lay there for hours, the look of pure euphoria on their face is one I'll never forget. It's like they're lifted into the presence of a higher being, like they're shooting up God himself into their arms. Look around the internet for IV heroin/methamphetamine reports, I'd suggest looking at the website called Erowid. Words can't describe it, and I hope the IV rush is something I'll never experience.

Dimethyl will be able to give you a better idea than me I think, he's had more experience with opiates and pharmaceutical drugs than me.

 

sounds out of reality weird so its nothing like smoking super potent skunk or anything ?


i actually want to try it for myself after reading what you wrote, but i wont as i see all the problems which arise from it...

 

You couldn't compare it to the most potent weed in existence, any IV user would probably laugh at the comment. You could probably smoke so much pure THC that you end up hallucinating, and not even be as high as you would on a shot of dope. They activate totally different receptors in the brain, each releasing different chemicals with different intensities.

My advice would to be not to even start experimenting with anything stronger than MDMA, which I'm pretty sure anyone could track down. There's a reason people sell everything they own for crack and heroin, because the high is so intense that it's like nothing you've ever felt before.

I'm feeling pretty proud of myself, my room mate just knocked on my door and asked if I wanted some weed but I turned it down .

 

I have a question for you. What is LSD like? I want to try it and ecstasy. Hopefully I get to experiment with this soon, I'm tired of feeling 'normal' and left out.

Also I hope you get better and I'm sure you will with time.

 

Clean LSD is AMAZING. You see great patterns in everything; I remember being outside in my friends garden, looking down at his patio tiles and seeing loads of swirling patterns. You feel great euphoria, and given the right circumstances you can have some pretty enlightening experiences. You have closed eye visuals of fractals, and endless patterns. I remember laying down, looking up at my friends glass ceiling and seeing a fractal like 200 feet tall. I've never felt so connected to anyone, we sat there for like 10 hours straight just getting really deep into our thoughts together.

One thing I will say about LSD is that every trip has a part that most users describe as "overwhelming", it can feel a bit too intense and can trigger VERY dark thoughts. Stay away from idiots who will try to scare you for a laugh, these are the people that give LSD a bad name. The best thing to do in this situation is to remind yourself that you've taken a drug, and that the effects will decrease in a few hours. If you ever do take LSD please add my MSN, I'd be able to help you make the most out of your trip, and if things get too intense I'd be there for you to help calm you down.

With LSD you don't actually hallucinate like most people believe, you don't see dragons or your dead grandmother climbing up your leg with a knife in her teeth, you just see patterns everywhere. It also comes in waves, sometimes you'll feel totally in control with these awesome visuals everywhere, the next minute you'll be totally bewildered muttering gibberish to yourself. I would suggest taking LSD without any other substances your first time, apart from some weed which will really intensify things. It's great for the comedown because you can literally spend about 20 hours tripping with good acid and a small amount of weed, I've never tripped without it. Taking LSD and ecstasy is good for your third or so time, it's called candy-flipping by most old school hippies. It will pretty much guarantee a good trip, but prepare to have a pretty raw comedown. The LSD comedown in general feels like someone has taken your brain and slowed it down, all of your thoughts will trickle in slowly and you'll probably struggle to socialise properly. The comedown will last 1 to 2 days depending on the amount of LSD you took, I've only ever taken two potent hits before because I had access to a lot (I seriously mean a lot) of product. My general rules when I trip is to have a free house for AT LEAST 24 hours, and never leave. Access to a nice garden is a MUST, being outside watching the trees blend together and morph with a giant, endless blue sky is the most amazing feeling you'll ever have.

Regarding you curiosity with ecstasy, you'd be better off with MDMA. I'd go as far as to say 90% of all ecstasy pills sold are fake, filled with research chemicals/fillers. Just get some MDMA, wrap a small amount in some rolling paper and swallow it. You can snort it, but I warn you that the burn is the most painful thing you'll ever experience - I've seen grown men with their eyes flowing from the pain, then a few minutes later they're hugging a cushion muttering "This. Feels. AWESOME". Good times . Also prepare to chew your jaw to pieces, I remember once I couldn't eat for a week after taking some seriously potent MDMA because I had ulcers AT LEAST 4 inches big all across my mouth, my face was actually swollen; I had to live on soup. This is called "gurning", some people have it worse than others, but usually it can get pretty bad. If you've got good MDMA you won't even notice you're doing it.

Technically you're safer taking clean MDMA than alcohol, according to certain scientists. Most argue that because it's not addictive, unlike alcohol.

I hope I've helped, feel free to ask any questions you have .

 

Careful, asking to buy drugs online is a sure fire way to get yourself arrested, and most likely banned from the forum. The best place to get LSD is to ask around from people who sell MDMA/ketamine. Most of the guys who can get ketamine will know someone who can get LSD.

I wish I could help you get some, but I'm afraid that's not possible. I've seen people on other forums get arrested and put in prison for selling bongs online, so classed drugs would be straight to prison. Not to mention the owner of the website would be in serious trouble for allowing it to happen, I've seen it happen. The rule I follow is that if it aids you to get high in anyway then don't EVER link it to someone, this includes legal highs like Salvia, and smoking devices like bongs and pipes.

I do hope you can get hooked up though, you seem pretty up for the experience which is great. Optimism is key to enjoying yourself when you're under the influence, you have to be 100% certain that you want to take it, otherwise you could end up in hell for eight hours.

I'd suggest not ever, ever asking anyone again on this forum where to buy drugs. You've kind of put us both as risk by even asking, I'd be surprised if we didn't get infracted. It's a rookie mistake though, everyone new to finding a drug community asks these questions, so a warning is enough. I'd suggest the staff here to be lenient on this, he obviously isn't aware of the legalities involved. Please understand that I am aware of the law, and will never, ever aid someone in getting drugs.