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Discussion in 'RuneScape 3 Cheating' started by JaminB, Dec 5, 2010.

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    The reason I don't provide any definitive evidence for Jagex's ability to detect BCEL is because there is none except the fact that BCEL clients like RSBOT (powerbot now) have the highest ban rates.

    Some clients like Powerbot do a pretty good job of not being detectable and aren't sloppily coded. Even still if you are under suspicion of botting they can easily use reflection to check client to server interaction and at this point even the best BCEL clients are detectable.
     
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    permission to leak to other forums plx :D (with credit to you ofcourse) :)
     
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    Very informative and well written.
     
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    Not so sure much of this will be accurate as Jagex did say they were implementing new macro detection :s
     
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    That was utter garbage, the OP clearly has no clue what he is talking about. You think Jagex needs a supercomputer to monitor the players? Jagex can just introduce anti-cheat code into the Runescape client and check for injected code. They don't need to wait for a report, or use a supercomputer to monitor everyone. The anti-cheat function would report back it found the injected code and the Jagex account servers would just flag the account. As for the snapshot feature, it's most likely just used to pick out a portion of a players chat logs so that a computer or jagex may review it and look for keywords. Why would they delete them every 60 seconds? It wouldn't be worth the constant read/write to only keep something for 60 seconds. And they don't even need to leave their offices to have the legal team get a site shut down. They just email the host and explain how the site infringes on their copyrights. Most bots are not "very secure and highly obfuscated." Look at how many times nexus has been cracked, Extremely secure right? Powerbot is open source, so thats no help for you. About the only bot you can rely on is RiD, because the actions are processed by his server and the client program only uses the WinAPI to move the mouse/keyboard events. Have a nice day.
     
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    @lured yah: absolutely go for it.
    First of all Jagex has no client-side anti-cheat code. It is all handled remotely on a Jagex server. The client has the ability to send basic inputs to the server and if these inputs are suspicious then they are flagged. Your right about the NeXus client being cracked once in a while, but this has not happened recently. As obfuscation algorithms get more and more complicated even the best hackers are hard pressed to crack the client. This is not to say it can't be done and surely a company like Jagex with enough money and time to do so may try. However since they rely mostly on inhuman inputs for detection I no longer think they will try. I am a huge supporter of RiD. Without a doubt they are the best. Their black-box security is next to impossible to beat and there human looking mouse movements are flawless. The only improvement for RiD would be switching to a multi-platform API and not the WinAPI which makes it annoying if your running linux like me. On that point I agree with you RiD is the best.

    I should also take this opportunity to mention exactly what Jagex's new detection methods are. About a year ago Jagex said "We've made a detection system that can catch ALL bots." When really all they did was introduce fake data into the client that would mess up bots. This would ofcourse mess up reflection and BCEL bots as they interact directly with the client (RiD was not effected as it uses visual cues). This has been fixed by bot creators and now bots ignore most faked data.
     
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    Quite the opposite.

    To the OP:

    I was stating they could introduce such code without the need for server side checks on each players logs. It would be much easier to implement this than what you had in mind.
     
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    thanks for that, cleared up many misconceptions :)
     
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    @Sturgill
    I agree that would be a much better way. However remember Runescape aims to be as light weight as possible meaning they trim the client to be very very small. Any addition to the code would make it heavier. I don't think they will do this.
     
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    Actually that's incorrect.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfUs5We-cYk - 7:49, the entire clan gets random events.
     
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    Great post! Thanks for sharing.
     
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    No problem!
     
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    Great read, very interesting.
     
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    @Carcinomati: That was because of a bug in the game engine which I believe has been patched. It only effected a group in a clan chat in the wilderness. You can validate the truth of this statement by going to Rune Wiki, looking up the Random Events article and look under trivia.
     
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    Very interesting read, thanks for posting.
     
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    What new detection methods will Jagex release to combat RWT when Free trade and Old Wilderness are released.
     
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    Oh speaking of which. Jagex announced officially the old wilderness will return, but did they say anything about free trade?
     
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    very interesting read, thanks for sharing your knowledge!
     
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    It's assumed that FT will come with the wildy. Players drop their whole inventory in the wildy and FT overlaps with this.
     
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    just go to the homepage. lolcakes.
     
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