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  1. Unread #1 - Nov 24, 2010 at 8:17 AM
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    Evading a TWC

    Knowingly evading a TWC deserves a more strict punishment than simply a TWC on the new account.

    In the exception that the person is unsatisfied with their name selection they should have to PM a Global on the new account explaining the situation so that they may receive a TWC on the new account BEFORE ANY ACTIVITY ON THE NEW ACCOUNT OCCURS.

    In the case of a sex offender, they most generally are required to inform all community members of their sex offender status even before the move occurs. This is to prevent sex offenders from relocating and committing more sex related crimes because of the communities ignorance to the situation.

    In my opinion a suitable punishment would be some sort of temp ban and a permanent ban for repeat offenders.

    If you agree, how long do you think the temp ban should be?

    If you disagree, how would you go about addressing the issue?
     
  3. Unread #2 - Nov 24, 2010 at 8:21 AM
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    Evading a TWC

    I don't see this any different from ban evading. They're hiding to obviously go back into the market without their TWC and probably with shady intentions. I say a perm ban is appropriate.

    I mean that's not fair? I don't like my account name and I'm not allowed to make a new one but someone who has a TWC is more than welcome to?
     
  5. Unread #3 - Nov 24, 2010 at 8:38 AM
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    Evading a TWC

    TWC Evasion is just another TWC...it doesn't really happen very often enough to even be a problem.

    When we catch them we just simply request a TWC.
     
  7. Unread #4 - Nov 24, 2010 at 8:40 AM
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    Evading a TWC

    You're allowed to make a new one, Matt.
     
  9. Unread #5 - Nov 24, 2010 at 8:42 AM
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    Evading a TWC

    Nope I already asked. I think I was told by Sythe no? Pen said if I did want one I'd get no donor rank which was kinda mean because I donated it...

    Anyways OT, FireZ he knows the current rules he's suggesting they change.
     
  11. Unread #6 - Nov 24, 2010 at 8:46 AM
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    Evading a TWC

    I would guess for repeat offenders, 3+ time we could request a permanent ban. Its more of a judging decision then a rule that is set in stone.
     
  13. Unread #7 - Nov 24, 2010 at 9:23 AM
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    I don't see any positive reasons on why they'd want to evade their TWC though? I really think it should just remain a ban and they should stay on the account that first got the TWC.
     
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    Evading a TWC

    I agree with this, if a user with a twc makes a new account on sythe and doesn't notify a mod about it, he should be banned. Temp ban should be at least 2 weeks and for multiple offences it should be a perm.
     
  17. Unread #9 - Nov 24, 2010 at 10:19 AM
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    Evading a TWC

    I don't agree with the current rules. They're trying to get out of their punishment, they shouldn't just be given another TWC. Especially seeing as they could just continue to do this, and be doing who-knows-what on every new account.
     
  19. Unread #10 - Nov 24, 2010 at 11:53 AM
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    I know which person your talking about, I saw the dispute and thought that at the very least a month or two temp ban is in order, they have the twc for a reason and making a new account just seems like a way to get out of it and possiably a way for them to scam. I support this.
     
  21. Unread #11 - Nov 24, 2010 at 12:04 PM
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    Evading a TWC

    It's the same as a ban evading, if there is a proof that it is really the same person and if he did not mentioned that he is the same person.
     
  23. Unread #12 - Nov 24, 2010 at 12:05 PM
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    I support a 3 day ban if they do not let a mod know that they have made a new account.
     
  25. Unread #13 - Nov 24, 2010 at 1:32 PM
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    Evading a TWC

    If the punishment is another TwC...

    To be honest I would evade it aswell, At worst you'd be back where you started.

    I support for a (temp) ban.
     
  27. Unread #14 - Nov 24, 2010 at 1:39 PM
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    dont care It makes no diffrence if they both have a twc.
     
  29. Unread #15 - Nov 24, 2010 at 1:43 PM
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    Evading a TWC

    This post makes no sense and should be deleted.

    OT, I support a rule that any account caught evading a TWC will be permed and they must go back to their first account that was served the TWC.
     
  31. Unread #16 - Nov 24, 2010 at 2:09 PM
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    What i mean is that if they make another account as long as they apply a twc onto it It doesent make a diffrence.
     
  33. Unread #17 - Nov 24, 2010 at 2:22 PM
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    It does make a difference though. They shouldn't be evading their TWC to begin with.
     
  35. Unread #18 - Nov 24, 2010 at 2:23 PM
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    Evading a TWC

    I think if the person makes a new account to evade a TwC, they should be given another TwC + a 2 week ban.
     
  37. Unread #19 - Nov 25, 2010 at 3:45 PM
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    Evading a TWC

    Positive insight! I -personally- was thinking something along the lines of a temporary ban (in the leagues of 2 weeks/1 month, but ultimately up to the admins discretion) would be suitable to handle most cases of abuse of the current policy, while not creating a difficult situation for possible legitimate persons in special circumstance. I did not wish to originally disclose my proposed penalty as I did not want to create any sort of bias.

    In response to:
    You are correct in the revival of my suggestion, but this is not the first time this suggestion has been proposed by myself. The first time it fell on deaf ears as the overworked administrators have much more pressing issues to deal with than to make a ruling on many of the suggestions made in this subforum, which is undoubtedly understandable.

    In regards to FireZ, while I am sympathetic in the fact that all situations are different and a TwC is a decision based ruling that is not a set in stone law based ruling, I urge you to consider the concept of evasion and the fact that most of these individuals seek to remove a ruling placed upon them by a higher authority via illegitimate methods.


    Although I know this is not a pressing issue, I would appreciate a response from the administration as I feel this could fill in some loop holes in the security net laid out for this sites users.

    In closing I leave you with a roleplay based question:

    If you indeed were someone intent on scamming an individual and hampered by the punishment of a Trade With Caution warning, would you not simply create a new account for your scam in order to attempt to slip under the ban evader radar?
     
  39. Unread #20 - Nov 30, 2010 at 2:18 AM
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    Evading a TWC

    Evading a TWC should be at least a 1 week ban, I doubt you give it to people as a Joke, why treat it as one?
     
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