Change OMM Application Requirements Slightly

Why does the OMM application require a "FINISHED" trade? In any case, I have access to a person's account and give it back to whomever owns it in the end. If a trade goes through, the buyer gets the account and I get credit for it. If a trade does not goes through, then I give it back to the seller, but I get no credit?

I think it takes just as much trust to give somebody back their account in a failed trade as it does to give it to the buyer in a successful trade. Why do we not get credit for this?

 

I support...it shows the same degree of trust. It goes right along with having a MM fee, having them give you the fee, then one of the parties backs down. As of right now, the MM doesn't have to refund the fee because the trade fell through.

However, I can't imagine an OMM application being 25/25 with unsuccessful trades...what do you plan to do to compensate that? Or are you okay with it?

 

Failed trades don't count for anything because you haven't done anything. Also, it's much more easier to fake proof this way.

The MM application isn't only to show trust, but that you are able to complete trades as well.

 

I don't do anything in failed trades? Most of the time a trade fails, it's because I verified the account like I was supposed to. The last step in the trade is to give the buyer the new password. But if he doesn't want to buy the account after I verify it, I give the password back to the seller. In both cases, I did exactly what I was supposed to.

Also, "haven't done anything" is an understatement. It usually takes 5-to-10 minutes of my time, not to mention trying to decipher 11 year old the whole time. I don't resent doing it, I'd just like to get something from it. =|

 

Red= You should have simply said "easier" : http://wvde.state.wv.us/tt/2002/grammartips/grammartip0017.html

Green: I understand how the middleman would be at fault with some trades falling through, for example, if he was incompetent. However, in many cases it's entirely out of our hands whether or not the trade falls through.

 

This is pretty much the best response.

Even though it takes time, effort, and honesty on your part, it really doesnt matter if the trade doesnt go through. Plus whats to stop you from lobbying your friends and getting them to help fake set up all your proofs? No support, it sucks but everyone who goes through with it knows that its worth the time spent ; )

 

Yes, but no trade took place. So, you've done nothing.

You're not going to get "something" out of every trade. Learn this now, because if you ever become a OMM, you will spend a lot of your time on failed trades.

 

Ah, that's a great way of putting it. I understand now.

@Kero: I withdraw my support.

 

Not going to get "something" out of every trade? Learn this now?

I'll ignore the second intimation of lack of intelligence and observation. Doubtful that you really meant how it came out.

As for the first one, every single OMM I have seen require a payment up front. This means the OMMs almost prefer a failed trade, since they take mean the OMM didn't have to do "anything"? In any case, an OMM gets some money out of a trade.


Let me get this clear now, in case I haven't been. I'm not "raging" because I don't get due credit. I'm used to the world, and I know how that's how the world works. I'm just trying to improve the process.





At Nate, what's to stop me from using some friends to stage a successful trade?

 

around 1/3 of my trades that I get asked into fail, BEFORE I take fees. Trust me, you will need to accustom yourself to getting asked into trades and having them not finish.

2. Nothing really, but its much easier to fake a failed proof than a successful one I suppose.

 

Nate, I haven't referred to the 5 or so trades that have fallen through before they started. (Note I only have like 5 successful trades so far, so your success rate of 67% is even better than mine). I'm talking about the ones that take just as much work but don't end up with an exchange of goods.

I still get the screenshot for Sythe name, etc.
I still get the screenshot for the account
I still get the account
I still do the recovery test (which fails)
I tell the buyer, he backs out
I give the seller the account back.



I don't think it takes any more work to fake a failed trade than a successful one. I have about 14 accounts at my disposal at any given moment.


Edit: If Pen says this is simply to complicated to add into the application, then fine. That's okay with me. But if it's more a matter of "stop raging you noob and get used to life," then please don't post anymore.

 

Ya if all the accounts that I was MMing succeeded their recovery tests and the trades went through, I would have another grand or two EASY sitting in paypal right now from those MM fees. Its part of Mming man, and everyone who has the rank knows it, hates it, yet has paid the dues. Trades/recovs fail, just a fact of Mming.

 

That's exactly what I mean. Do you need a dictionary?

Regardless, the requirements won't be changed. MMs need to prove that they can successfully complete 25 trades to be considered for the rank.