Seriously....

Thats not going to happen.....^^

All 4 screens are necessary but using the same black marks pics for all accts as long as each has none really isn't an issue IMO...

 

Honestly if they are going to be exactly the same, then it shouldn't matter if you reuse the picture. I can see a problem if the account DID have offenses and Nate only showed a blank offenses screenshot, but they were all the same and completely clean accounts. Nate shouldn't be penalized for it - if you'd like to make a reform of the rule disallowing this in the future go ahead, but punishment isn't necessary at the moment.

 

I agree with Nate.

The point is, if anything, all these pictures do is discourage people to sell their accounts. The process is tedious and unnecessary; it also didn't drastically reduce the number of scams that happen daily. Scammers will always scam. Don't kill the market in your efforts to stop it.

 

Thank you. When I was confronted about it, its not like I lied and tried to cover it up: hell yes I used the same picture because ITS THE SAME THING across all the accounts. Wasnt really sure what the issue was, glad someone sees my perspective : P

Agreed. I wont be putting a fair amount of mine on the market, which are good accounts that I wouldnt be scamming, but really dont have the patience for hundreds of pics.

 

The pictures are there to PROVE that they don't have blackmarks, etc etc. Why would we even require the pictures if we allowed people to use the same ones on multiple accounts?

The logic is missing here people.

 

You realize how incompetent you sound if you dont make the connection that ANYONE can post pictures of ANY account and claim that those are the logins and other connected pictures for the account. Requiring them proves ABOSOLUTELY NOTHING.

 

hmm lots of anger in this topic lol. I think that although Nate is right about the "copy - pasting" of pictures that can happen, it is necessary anyway. and if you wanted to sell all of your accounts... well you'd put in 30 mins - 1 hr and get the pictures set up.

 

The only way to PROVE anything is if the account name was required to be visible.

Anyone can post a picture of an account being in the Greenzone, when in reality it could have multiple offenses. This is why it shouldn't matter if the same picture is shown if all the blackmarks on the accounts truly are the same.

From my perspective, I think that is what Nate is trying to say. If it is, I completely agree with you Nate, it is totally unnecessary to have different pictures that all prove the same thing.

 

That was one of the points I was trying to make, yes, because apparently it was causing a fuss with certain market sectionals.

 

I'm going with what Altz said.

Good luck Nate !

 

Lol thanks Marc, although I dont see how luck is a necessary component, I am not trying to fight with anymore, just trying to change an aspect of the market that I think could be improved.

 

No support. It is required to keep the standard at maximum. If it is that much hassle, the Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V are only a millisecond from your reach.

 

My point is that requiring them does absolutely nothing at all. Nothing. Anyone looking to scam will simply post other pictures, and will get away with it anyways, so it serves no purpose besides providing strict draconian thread formats and free logs to the people who lock the threads of the offenders.

 

Wouldn't an OMM check the offenses screen anyway when verifying the account?... Providing they do use an OMM and not be idiots that is.

 

Thats the only way that they will actually know if the offense screen is as pictured either way, so the presence of the picture of it in the thread is irrelevant anyways.

 

These pictures serve purely as an indication of the general account mechanics to any prospective buyers - why else would they be shown? They are not PROOF, they are only a representation so members know exactly what they are buying. If the images shown are exactly what the account is, there should be no problem in the source of them.

A quick example:
If I were to purposefully create many exact duplicate skillers with 99 woodcutting and zero cash, say I made 20 all up, and then created a thread to sell them on Sythe - would you expect me to take a screenshot of EVERY SINGLE ACCOUNT? Even if each image would be EXACTLY the same? Would you expect me to show 20 of EXACTLY the same images over and over in the thread?
It's just not logical.

 

Showing multiple offenses screens that look the exact same isn't needed at all.

Show it once and be done with it providing its the same for ALL accounts.

 

i kinda support you , i get where your coming from , i mean as long as all 3 accounts have the same info like that and your not out there to scam then that should be okay , but i dont find it a big hassle to just put 2 more pics up ya know

 

We have rules in place which we believe help protect our members. You may not agree with them, but you are selling on our site, so you'll have to abide by them. Sure, they are not going to prevent every scam, and some rules may seem a bit overboard at times, but rules are rules. You're never going to agree with every regulation in place.

Coming here acting all pissy about it isn't the answer. If you want to have an intelligent discussion, and you have an alternative idea which would help protect our users, please let us know. But simply posting here saying it is stupid and that it should be removed is not being productive, it's being whiny.

 

Nate, you as an accomplished OMM should know that in account trades it's necessary to verify that the pictures look like the account that's on sale. If not, then the person selling the account can be banned for faking pics/attempting to scam. On that topic, how many people use OMMs and MMs in high value account trades? Almost everyone, you'd be crazy not to, of course unless you had 100% trust in the seller.

It's not often that you find people of your stature selling accounts, so you probably don't see this as a necessity but for the majority of account sellers, there is a lot of scamming occurring. We as Mods have to do our best possible and attempt to cut down on the scamming by enforcing these rules, so we will lock threads without pictures for the safety of buyers.

I understand that when you're selling multiple accounts that are 99 wc, posting each individual picture of the accounts can be tedious. I would suggest that a sticky be put up in this situation, implying that if you are selling multiple accounts that are exactly the same, you don't have to post pictures (just one set of pictures would do). However, using an OMM/MM in this scenario would be better for your security, so the OMM/MM can actually verify the account is, as it has been described by the seller.