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  1. Unread #61 - Sep 14, 2010 at 6:18 PM
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    I do not think this is legitimate, he accuses me of things which he should need to post proof for.

    Requesting an overruling.

    I don't want drama, I just want the rules to be followed and to be interpreted without personal feelings interfering.


    I gave you the correct information. As you said, you don't have proof. If you don't have proof, it is against the rules to accuse. I maintain that I gave you the correct information.
     
  3. Unread #62 - Sep 14, 2010 at 6:25 PM
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    Drama and personal feelings? Point out the subjective wording in my post, and I'll be happy to delete it and/or remove the entire post. I'm telling honestly what happened throughout the trade. I maintain that it's legitimate feedback. You were extremely unhelpful and you backed me into the corner of accepting his gift card, which was against the original terms of my sale. Honestly, you left me with no choice. Things just went downhill from there.

    All I have is a MSN transcript of the convo, which isn't allowed as legitimate proof, so if you really want to get your way, I'll just delete the post.



    As to Nick's post, of which trade are you requesting me to provide proof? Of the trade to RSmiddleman givinng him access to the account, or of the whole transaction with RSaccountseller? I'm afraid my proof is, as is the case with RSaccountseller's requests, more or less lacking. I have the MSN transcript of RSmiddleman contacting me, saying RSaccounttrader did not give him a good password; I also have the transcript of the original hour-long ordeal, which did involve RSaccounttrader. Those are about it.
     
  5. Unread #63 - Sep 14, 2010 at 6:38 PM
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    I was referring to Nick.

    Honestly, I wasn't trading for the vouch, and that has no effect on me. I have previously cancelled over 10 trades for safety reasons, and I always scan potential customers to see if they are vaders and I usually have a mod IP check them.

    I HAD to make the trade go through, because you agreed to accept the giftcard as a paypal and rsmiddleman had given you the giftcard. Therefore, I was obligated to give rsmiddleman the account.

    Although the giftcard wasn't ideal, I still thought this was a successful trade so far, as you could immediately apply the card to your paypal (as you previously stated). At this point, you left the conversation in a fit and I gave rsmiddleman the info. After giving him the info, he declared it was false (even though I knew it was true).

    This is where I thought I possibly was being framed. My suspicions were confirmed when rsmiddleman told me that he talked to the seller and got the original password, which worked. However, the password he told me did not match the one the seller told me (i have a screenshot).

    This leads me to conclude that either
    1. Both parties teamed up before the trade to frame me, but were class A actors (highly unlikely)
    2. After the trade finished, both parties were disappointed with my work so they decided to team up and frame me (highly probable).

    Please remember that these two traders posted no proof, so their allegations should be considered false until proven correct. This was a $37 trade and I have handled $550 trades just fine. DO NOT let these empty assertions lead you to not using me as an MM.
     
  7. Unread #64 - Sep 14, 2010 at 6:39 PM
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    Telling me what password you gave RSmiddleman should suffice.
     
  9. Unread #65 - Sep 14, 2010 at 6:53 PM
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    NO. I do not want to jeopardize my new accounts security. I went through a lot to get that account. Do not post, or private message him any passwords. I know I am not supposed to be posting, but this is a matter of my accounts security. Since I do not want to get in any trouble, I will end this. Do not post or contact him with any of MY passwords.
     
  11. Unread #66 - Sep 14, 2010 at 7:04 PM
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    RSmiddleman, I gave him the exact same info that I gave you later in the trade. I simply re-gave him the same information, since he was thirsty to verify that I'm not lying. There shouldn't be any risk, since I'm sure he has the info saved anyway.

    I don't think RSaccounttrader scammed you or anything, and I don't think he's untrustworthy. He gave up $500 to this website, for God's sake. I think he made a mistake and the password never changed, so that's the only real problem I see.

    I've withdrawn my complaint in addition to my PMing RSAccountTrader a screenshot of the transcript. It's the best proof I got, but, as he said, it was good enough for him. At least my name as a liar is cleared, and I've backed out of this whole mess before any other accusations are thrown. RSmiddleman, I suggest you do too.


    To RSaccounttrader, I just want to make it clear that my initial complaint had nothing to do with the password dispute. I figured from the beginning that it was a mistake. My issue was with your lack of authority and helpfulness. After I realized your email didn't match the one on the post, I asked for a verifying PM; you refused, stating a policy that you don't even have published. (Obviously, I didn't want to send a seemingly random PM to a person who may or may not even be expecting it, so that's why I wanted you to send the first PM.) That, and refusing to return the account BEFORE he sent me the gift card, were my only two complaints. Your behavior was so unprofessional that I eventually came to the realization that I was probably talking to an impostor. That should say something about your customer service.
     
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    Ok but I do not see how I can be held responsible. I only know what I was told. They talked privately and I do not know what they said. Maybe they made a mistake I do not know. All I know is, the information I received from RSaccounttrader was different from kerokerocola. As kerokerocola did, I withdraw my complaints. SOMEBODY made a mistake and I was the one who noticed it. At no point, am I at fault. Being the buyer, I only know what the MM tells me. When they tell me something different than the seller, I, the one who paid money(in this case a giftcard,) should reserve the right to get nervous. I apologize for any mishap this may have created. My main point is I was simply concluding from what information I received, be it right, or be it wrong.
     
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  19. Unread #70 - Sep 17, 2010 at 12:44 PM
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    Thanks for vouch.
    Good trade.

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    Item for PayPal+RSGP
    Buyer sends me PayPal money (amount to buyer+cover for fees to buyer). I confirm I have received payment and then tell seller to trade with buyer. The trades happens and then the seller receives his money.

    On msn he says that he needs you password, missleading info =//
     
  31. Unread #76 - Sep 21, 2010 at 2:58 PM
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    Trade Type: (From above list)junk trade for pp
     
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