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Hello everyone,

I don't like to be doing this post, but after @Hitmans Accounts ripped me off for 9k euro I feel obliged to do it.

Well, I played runescape from 2004 to 2010, but as things are I decided to play again a question of 1-2 months ago, and I decided to do it in the 'old runescape' version but I did not want to start from 0, researching a little I found some websites to buy and sell until I found this one, sythe.

I was talking to several sellers until I finally decided to trust @Hitmans Accounts.

Selling link: $300 DONOR [HITMANS ACCOUNTS] Infernal pures / Morrigan bh pures / 10 hp obby maulers
Seller link: Hitmans Accounts

First I bought a pure of 75 att, 99 str, 99 range and 99 mage, the sale was perfect, I paid him, and he quickly gave me the account information (username and password).

After 1 or 2 days, I decided I wanted a MAIN, I bought one for 1000 euros and 2 other pures, a 60 att maxed and a void.

I bought all the accounts with a lot of gold, which I paid for separately, I will post the pictures of the payments later.

So far so good, I had my 4 accounts and about 15bills.

Let's start now with the different problems:

In the void account, he offered it to me with 96 strenght and 96 mage, and I told him that I was interested in 99 in str and 99 in mage, to which he told me that there was no problem, from the moment I told him this, in a matter of maximum 24 hours he had already achieved it, so I bought it.

After 2 days the account was permanently banned for using bots, to which I asked him and he told me that he had not used any type of bot, something strange for the amount of experience he got in 24h, but he shielded himself by referring me to his TOS where he clearly indicates that he is not responsible for any bann after closing the deal, and indicated that it was my fault, because I had asked him.

Something that did not seem very loyal to me, since the account was banned because he used bots, but well, I respected him, my fault for not waiting a while before buying it when I saw that he used bots (FIRST PROBLEM).

A few days later I asked him for a smithing boost from 86 to 90 in my main account, to which he agreed without problems, during this boost, he emptied the bank with a value of 5b, I contacted him and he told me that he would find out what happened, I was waiting for 5 hours without more information, then I tried him to tell him that I was going to buy 7 more bills, after a few minutes he told me that hitmans accounts assumed what had happened, he refunded me the 5 bills and sold me the 7 extra. (SECOND PROBLEM, BUT WITH A SOLUTION AFTER SPENDING MORE EUROS).

At this point our relationship grew cold on his part.

I asked him for another account but he no longer responded to the ticket, or he told me that he didn't have time, or even when I told him to buy an account for him and he told me that he would give me a price in a few hours, he didn't answer me anymore, and when I asked again, he told me that he had already sold it, our business relationship did not prosper after 5 bills.

During this time I acquired another account and more gold from other reputable sythe sellers, everything was perfect and without problems.

THE FINAL SCAMM:
Today August 23rd, I receive an email from Jagex indicating that they suspect that someone has accessed my account, to recover the password to restore my access, I proceed to do so and when I try to access I see a message stating ; your account has been suspended' to which I proceed to contact JAGEX to ask what has happened.

To which they reply a few minutes ago that the account has been suspended for being involved in account theft.

Apparently one of my JAGEX linked accounts has been reported stolen and has been returned to the original owner.

I decide to find out which account it was, normally when they ban an account, it automatically disappears from HISCORES.

I search for all the characters, and find no information on any of them, all closed, all but one, the main one where I had all the money (attached picture, now that the name hasn't changed yet).

Name of the characters:
Main moyo (main)
Void Moyo (void one)
Dscim moyo (60 att)
GSword Moyo (75 att)

So I decide to contact HITMANS ACCOUNTS to tell him that my jagex account has been deleted and that they have recovered the main account, his immediate response was that he could not do anything, and that he did not want to be involved, I asked him about all the information to recover the account and his response was that the account has no recovery.

I then quoted him his TOS, where he clearly states that he only sells accounts that he is the original owner of, which he LIED.

I told him that I was going to make a report in sythe for everything that happened if he did not give me a solution, he was 2 hours without answering me, (I know he was connected, because he answered to other people by private).

Finally and changing his first version he told me that he gave me the account information, but he didn't have access to the original email because it was too old... another lie that proves he is not the original owner.

To this I answered him, that I'm sorry but it's not enough and that I was going to make the report anyway, after writing that, he decided to close the ticket and ban me from the server, and that's the reason why I can't post as many pictures as I would like.

I put all the pictures I have.


THE MOST IMPORTANT OF THIS TRHEAD AND THE REASON OF THE POST:
I want to make it clear that I have dealt with several sellers and I have had no problem with any of them except HITMANS ACCOUNT, and although I have already accepted that I have lost 9k euros, I want to denounce that HITMANS ACCOUNT lies in his TOS because he is not the original owner of his account, and if he is, it shows that he has recovered the account and has ripped me off. (proof with jagex mail)

I request please to ban his account from sythe so that no other person in this forum will be cheated by him.


few images that I have before he bann me from discord:
HUNCHO CHATS:
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No helping with account info:
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Giving account details after I said I make a report, and saying he dont have original mail access, NOT ORIGINAL OWNER:
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JAGEX evidence that one account have been stolen...:
if any mod requires that, ask me for private

Account that have been recovered only one account that has not being deleted from jagex account:
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Some Binance Payments:
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Last conver with him:
[18:04]

jagex have disabled my jagex account

[18:04]

and need recovery info

[18:04]

for all of them


Huncho I ONLY TICKETS — hoy a las 18:05

How the heck are you this unlucky? Do you break alot of rules or something?

[18:05]

I dont want to get mixed in on all of this really

[18:06]

Never had any troubles


Moyo — hoy a las 18:06

i did nothing

[18:06]

no worries

[18:06]

not your fault


Huncho I ONLY TICKETS — hoy a las 18:06

removed.


Moyo — hoy a las 18:06

can i get recovery info please?


Huncho I ONLY TICKETS — hoy a las 18:08

I did not set recovery information on the accounts

[18:08]

Im not active right now will write later


Moyo — hoy a las 18:09

ok

[18:09]

wil lwait, thank you


Huncho I ONLY TICKETS — hoy a las 18:13

There is no recovery information on the accounts


@Moyo

jagex have disabled my jagex account


Huncho I ONLY TICKETS — hoy a las 18:13

And im not to be held liable for this, sorry.

[18:13]

Its out of my hands


Moyo — hoy a las 18:14

no worries, but I still can recover the accounts, they will ask me regular info

[18:14]

like

[18:14]

when created

[18:14]

wich country

[18:14]

etc

[18:14]

just need that info


Moyo — hoy a las 18:52

Im waiting for answer from jagex


Moyo — hoy a las 19:13

already got an answer

[19:13]

and as im checking on hiscores

[19:13]

all accounts have been removed

[19:13]

but not he main

[19:13]

i need the original email from that account

[19:13]

in order to recover it

[19:16]

once I recover it

[19:16]

I will new to buy new pures

[19:18]

it seems

[19:18]

that someone tried to recover the character...


Moyo — hoy a las 19:42

let me know if you recevied any email on the main

[19:42]

because this is very suspicious



To finish, this is my bad for spending money on a game wich is against rules, but hope this thread helps other people to dont get scammed against him, and also sorry for my english, Im from Spain.

Also want to mark that the main account is still playable (atm MAIN MOYO on hiscores until he changes name), and the info he provided is not enough to recover it, so the info he gave is FAKE or he is not the original owner.

Best regards,

 

Hello Moyo & Sythe moderators,


There has not ever been problems with any account sales until i met @Moyo .
Moyo purchased 3 accounts from @Hitmans Accounts and have had nothing but problems on his end after recieving the accounts.
One can only speculate about the reason for this.
This is not the first time someone came around and tried to clean an account shop or service provider.

It's worth mentioning all of moyo's accounts was linked to the same jagex launcher account.
Credentials: <Removed>

Linking a very relevant reddit post.
https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/15ko7hj/migrated_to_jagex_account_account_disabled_what/




-Bot accusing/macro advices
There was 690.000 xp gained in 24 hours
- Screenshot at 11.110.000 xp (97 strength) 08/07/2023
- Screenshot at 11.800.000 xp (98 strength) 08/08/2023
The account was finished and handed over to you at 98 strength.

Proof linked.
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- Gp problem/incident (reimbursed: proof linked)
There was a service ordered for smithing, something we normally don't offer in Hitman's but since you were a good customer it was outsourced to our most trusted worker that has been working for Hitman's pretty much since the beginning of the server.
@Dark Unicorn
In this process there was lost 5.75b gp from the main account (I Moyo I).
It was pretty much a he say/she say situation so i reimbursed the 5.75b gp after talking to my worker trying to figure out what had happend, still unknown to this day.

Proof linked.
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Imgur: The magic of the Internet




Do you mind providing some evidence/proof regarding your convo with jagex and ban history etc.
- Email from jagex about account access and overall convo
- Ban history of accounts (possible reason they do not show up on hiscores)
- Account wealth balance with current dating




- Advise about @Moyo not to mule inbetween accounts to avoid account bans/locks etc. after recieving large ammounts of gp etc.
Proof linked.
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- Interest shown around macro/ahk's which i strongly advised him not to use since it's banable and against the game rules.
Proof linked.
Imgur: The magic of the Internet




T.O.S:
Proof linked.
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Please, moderators let me know if you need any other material from me.

Huncho
Hitmans Accounts

 

Hello Mr Hncho,

Thanks for your reply, on the strenght pictures you also can see there is no only boost for strenght, also mage went from 96 to 99, im sure 100% that you botted.
I also appreciate your advices from muling and ahk;s.

But REMEMBER the reason of this post, is not about all the things above. I just wrote them to make everyone can know about all story.

Its because an account has been recovered, and the only person who can do it from jagex account is the original owner, and you sais on your TOS, you are the original owner from all the accounts that you sell.

So there is 2 possibilitys:
1/ you scammed literally everything recovering the account
2/ you lied in your TOS and you are not the original owner from the accounts that you sell, so scammer

 

Also I would like to ADD that the main ACCOUNT where are all the bills have BANK PIN, and probably still 2 days left to remove the PIN.

So if you are the real owner, you can try to recover it by yourself and give it back to me

@Hitmans Accounts

 

I will try and recover the account with the information i have given you.

 

any updates?

 

Communication is very slow, hope any mod could help us.

@President @Pikachu

 

@Hitmans Accounts any update from recovery?

 

I’m waiting for response from Jagex.
Meanwhile please fill me in on what i asked you please.

Do you mind providing some evidence/proof regarding your convo with jagex and ban history etc.
- Email from jagex about account access and overall convo
- Ban history of accounts (possible reason they do not show up on hiscores)

 

Also did you read this reddit post? @Moyo

There’s alot of resemblance to your case mentioned with disabled accounts and a locked main.

Posting the link for the reddit post once again since you don’t really respond very well on what i initially posted, let me know if there’s something you dont understand or needs translation help with.

https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/15ko7hj/migrated_to_jagex_account_account_disabled_what/

 

I have read the post, it says that characters are removed from the JAGEX account.

I have evidence with the JAGEX mail, that being a sensitive document, I will only provide it to the mods if they require it by private in which it is indicated that the account has been closed by 'hijacking', also that this decision has been taken because 'they have solid evidence in addition to the information from the original owner'.

It is also indicated that although there were more accounts in the JAGEX account, these are closed and will not reinstate access to the JAGEX account, which contradicts the post you shared, where they indicate 'if there are more characters, the account would not have been suspended'.

and these characters are the ones that no longer appear in the HISCORES.

On the other hand, do you have proof that you are the original owner of this account? if you don't want to provide it to me, it would be necessary that you prove it with the MODS, and in case you are, according to JAGEX's answer, you are involved in this whole situation.

I am sorry for any English expressions or misspellings.

 

@Hitmans Accounts more than 48 working hours and still no answer from Jagex?

 

@Hitmans Accounts Did Jagex answered your email?

 

@Hitmans Accounts I dont understand why you have stopped any communication...

 

I dont know why any mod is answering this thread... but I dont think anyone is protecting anyone. By the way I still have the hope HITMANS ACCOUNT is legit and everything get solved..

 

Hello @Moyo

I've managed to recover the original gmail.
I will hand this over to you, meaning you have all recovery information and the original email.
This should be sufficient enough assuming you have all your jagex launcher information and details to provide.
Feel free to add me on discord for the original email, i will need your phone number to link the email to you personally.

Hunchohitmans
UID: 928334400725336184

I've tried to recover the main account but since it's linked to your jagex launcher account i'm having difficulties. I'm certain that you are better off trying yourself with your new strongly linked email and jagex launcher information.
So i recommend you making a recovery ticket with your email strongly linked to your account using the ip you have gameplay time on.

I'm seeing nothing but reddit posts about disabled jagex account launcher characters similar to this case.
It's not a recovered/hacked account.
It's a disabled account.

From what i can tell a disabled Jagex account means one of the characters on your account has contested ownership, in this case it's more than one because you bought accounts and linked them to your launcher, broken game rules that can result in locked accounts/bans etc.


Several links to cases around jagex launcher disabled account issues:

https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/15ko7hj/migrated_to_jagex_account_account_disabled_what/
https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/1352sd7/account_disabled_on_jagex_launcher/
https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/13p9s5x/jagex_account_locked_for_no_apparent_reason/
https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/...grated_to_a_jagex_account_3_days_ago_woke_up/
https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/146uvlq/account_disabled/

I will try to clear the air around the false accusations around botted xp on an account and state that it was handed over to you safe and sound.
This was not a service, you bought an account and it got banned after you recieved it therefore i can not be held liable for anything that happend on your end after the account was handed over to you, it was confirmed that the account was safe 8/8/2023.
Proof: https://postimg.cc/Sn1nVSP5

I will lastly once again refer to what is stated in my TOS, section 1 & 7.

1. By verifying upon entering our discord server and/or opening a ticket in Hitman's Accounts discord server you will automatically agree to our Terms Of Service.

7. In the rare case of account locks, bans or mutes we will not be held responsible for it. We will not refund or remake what was lost on the order or purchase.
Tos: https://postimg.cc/H8jWPKh2

I am the original account creator and owner.
I am not responsible for the account being disabled because you have linked it to a jagex launcher to it along with other accounts you have also bought and recieved the hammer by jagex.

If moderation requires me, let me know.
Huncho

 

Hello Huncho,

Just added you, Im Moyo4199

 

Status: Original email has been handed over.
Please confirm this @Moyo

 

Huncho delivered original email, will check everything later, now have to back to job

 

Being talking with Jagex for 2 days, trying to get back the account, it seems hard but possible.

But what is sure is the reason of closing the jagex account is for /hijacking/

So, I would like to say sorry to @Hitmans Accounts since he did nothing to this situation happens.