Do not ban for offsite activities...

Right. Currently, mods basically ban who they want and not others. Its not fair the way it is.

What about past scamming or hacking or what ever?

 

Proof?

 

Yes which is why i cannot give a "clear" answer. There either has to be exceptions to the rule or a definite ban rule.

 

With proof of past scamming sure thing, hacking I don't know it depends on the degree of what the person is hacking.

 

How can we come up with a system that says which degree of hacking is alright? And with that being said, what hacking is alright?

 

People who have scammed in the past aren't necessarily still scammers. Finn certainly isn't. If it happened years ago, why should be assume its still happening?

I'm confused...

So does that mean you think that all recent actions (like phishing or hacking or what ever) should be bannable?

What? He's admitted it.

 

I really do think time is a factor in this Ie with Plznate he did it when he first joined and is changed.

 

Why should we trust they have stopped?

 

Plznate self-vouched on this site, this is about off-site scamming/hacking

 

Yeah, I suppose I need to be more concrete on it. Hacking is hacking period, so yeah it should be a ban as well.

 

Why should we assume they haven't?

 

I've admitted to hacking someones Ning account at my school. That happened in my past and I no longer hack anything. Should I be banned for that? For something that is in no way related to Sythe?

 

Because scamming doesn't show good character, and on a site where the main purpose is trading there is no real reason to risk it.

Obviously trusting everyone with a situation like that would have some benefits and some great members would emerge such as in finn's case. But i'm positive trusting previous scammers would have more repercussions then benefits.

 

While this analogy is unrealistic in regards to sythe; technically since i've decided to condone all hacking period... Yeah you should.

 

Where do you draw the line between what hacking should be considered harmless and unrelated to sythe and what hacking poses a threat? and get a clear rule from it?

or are you 100% in favor of anyone who has scammed/hacked ect. in the past be allowed to be on sythe?

 

This is most certainly an interesting point and has given me an idea for yet another suggestion, but that's not entirely related.

I don't see why people are banned for offsite actions, UNLESS it occurs offsite while they are active on Sythe. If they scam on another site while they own an active Sythe account, then their Sythe account should receive the same punishment as scammers on Sythe should.

As for a time offense, that really just depends. It's hard to determine how it should be handled, because it really is based on a case by case scenario.

For hacking/cracking/etc, I don't think it should be a bannable offense unless the user shows intent to use it against a Sythe member. Scamming is slightly different, however, as it shows what they're interested in, and what they're capable of.

I don't know, there's lots to consider with this.

 

Not true, if you get in a fight outside of school, but it is causing drama in school. The school can suspend/expel you from their premises for disrupting learning etc.

As for the suggestion itself, I support it to a decree. If someone is phishing, ddosing, hacking, etc. on another site they should be banned here.
They can Phish people through PM's.
They can gather Msn's and get a person's IP.

Why should they be able to use Sythe if they're hackers and scammers.

I don't support a ban if such offenses were years ago. It's like me saying I use to lure in RS when the wildy was there, or I use to remove the 300k to 30k for a Obby cape. Why should a person be banned for such things?


People can change.

He admitted it.

 

Okay. Think about these cases.

1.

Leecher comes to Sythe and starts trading. Someone does a background check and finds that they were banned from greattrades.com for scamming. Should this user get banned from Sythe because of that? What benefits would a ban have?

2.

A highly trusted member who is an OMM and moderator admits to scamming people on Runescape like 6 years ago. Should he be banned? Why?

 

1. Yes, definitely. He is probably here to scam.
2. I think a mod vote should determine this one.

 

It truthfully depends on the situation. And the benefits may be that this person is infact still a scammer and by banning him you have prevented a sythe member from being scammed.

Obviously not, but this comes back the point i have been making, you either have a rule banning everyone or you have variables in the rule and leave it to the mods to decide.