Mosque near Ground Zero

I seriously don't get what the whole ordeal is about. Last time I checked, United Statesians are allowed freedom of religion. If some Muslim wants to build a mosque where the World Trade Center once stood, why can't he? There wouldn't be a controversy if they were building a cathedral or synagogue. Pretty sure that's religism.

 

The Twin Towers did not stand two blocks away from Ground Zero -- a Burlington Coat Factory did. Get your facts straight, please.

 

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and factory was burned down when a plane crashed there. so pretty nice view from the mosque. also they're not building just a mosque, it's a community center for all of new york. it's a 13 floor building which includes a full basketball court for the WHOLE community not just muslim community. of those 13, only floor 12th and 13th are designed for prayer halls.

 

not unclear just alot of trolls etc. looking for anything to fuel their beloved flame wars. Was just warning you of possible consequences.

 

Turned on Fox News and they insisted that this be moved for "American Freedom" and said that it would be a "leading campaign issue".

Sometimes what the GoP has evolved into scares me.

 

I dont really care if they put it near ground zero...the president makes the final decision...Only in a couple of years we will find out if it was a bad one or not.

 

really its just a building not even at ground zero. If you don't like it do something about it.

 

I have a huge problem with this. Sure, not all Muslims are terrorists, but the terrorists were Muslims. It'd be like if a woman was eaten by a lion and her home was turned into a nature preserve aimed at protecting lions. Sure, not all lions intend to kill humans, but one did. It's insulting.

This was just another successful effort to get more publicity. They'll gladly keep you out of the development of their health care plan, but they shove this shit down your throat. Say what you want about Bush but at least he didn't burn a cross on Emmett Till's grave.

 

Extremely bad analogy. Lions are driven to kill humans instinctively. 95% of lions would kill a human if in a cage with them. However, under 1% of Muslims would kill a Christian in a cage with them.

 

I'm aware that it's not actually "on Ground Zero", but I don't care. I don't know where you got the idea that it isn't a mosque; just because you heard it somewhere from someone doesn't make it so. I've read the articles and heard the news, and no, not just Fox. If it was a structure in no way relevant to the Muslim faith, there would be no argument.

You can argue all you want about how there's extremists in every faith, but extremists of other faiths at most burn a building every now and then whereas the Muslim extremists flew planes into buildings.

Bull shit it's not hurting anyone. It's just like racism; people are so afraid of civil rights groups that they're willing to make minorities happy at the cost of everyone else. How do you think the families of the dead feel about this? Why do we need to create more drama and stress just to feel good about ourselves?

I would like to see where you got those numbers. Even if you replace a lion with a house pet, the analogy remains as effective. Once someone begins to pick apart your statements like this, you know they have nothing of value to say.

 

I didn't get the numbers, I made them up. And while the lion number may be slightly exaggerated, I guarantee the Muslim number is true.

As to your point that I have nothing of value to say, I will repost below what I valuably said before.

There is nothing wrong with having a Mosque there. Mosques are places of worship for perfectly fine religion. Just because some people interpret it incorrectly, doesn't mean that the religion is bad.

Arguing there should not be a mosque there is the same thing as arguing that there should be no church next to the site of the Oklahoma City Bombing, just because Timoth McVeigh, the Christian Terrorist, misinterpreted his own religion.

 

There is a distinct difference between the two events. The September 11th attacks were made by an arguably large group of extremists who hated America and Christianity. Their attacks were based on their skewed version of the Muslim faith. The Oklahoma City Bombing was two dumb shits who hated the government. Their attacks were more related to recent decisions made by the government as opposed to "I did it because I thought the book said to".

I don't understand why they can't just build the damned thing somewhere else. If they really wanted peace, that's what they'd do. This is why it's clear to me that they don't want to make peace, they really just want to get people talking.

 

You're saying that they weren't?

 

Thank you.

It's as wrong to act as if the faith had nothing to do with it as it is to solely blame the faith for the attacks.

 

It's not about if they can do it, but why they would want to do it. Theres over 200 mosques in the City of New York. Plus they were offered land else where. Those people are out for the attention and controversy.

It's been proven Al Qaeda were the perpetrators. It would be silly to say Al Qaeda isn't a Muslim extremist organization. If you want a source, I'd be happy to post one.

 

As a whole, no. Just as not all Dutch are responsible for the African slave trade; not all Christians are responsible for the Malleus Maleficarum; not all Germans are responsible for the Holocaust; not all drivers are responsible for the actions of the drunk drivers; not all football players are responsible for what OJ may or may not have done; not all African Americans are responsible for the Bloods and Crips; not all United States citizens are responsible for the war crimes their troops commit; not all Muslims are accountable for what terrorist organizations did.

 

i'm not understanding what your point is.

 

As it's been said on here several times, it just seems that everyone is getting angry with people who think its disrespectful towards the muslim people to blam ALL of them for 9/11 which some people do but we have to make them realise how disrespectful of them it is to even ask for this to be built in this area.

If this is allowed to go through than why don't we build a statue of Truman in nagasaki? I think that would be appropriate, or Maybe one of Hitler in isreal?
(Although i think Hitler was a great man although yes im showing his faults and how people think is horrible in the last sentence, which i understand but to me he is and always will be a great leader and what not.)

 

its just very disrespectful. historically Muslims build their mosque were they have conquered. the group that commited 9/11 were muslims. its just a slap in the face to America and the people who lost loved ones that day.


for all you idiots saying "omg not all Muslims are terrorist wtf they were just extremist"
go read their freaking bible. some Muslims may not go around killing thats true but their religion is to kill the infidels(anyone who doesnt follow their religion) jihad is a key part of their religion. saying must Muslims do not believe in jihad is like saying most Christians(just an example) don't believe Jesus is the son of god.yes a few don't but most do.


i don't think anyone is questioning the right of building it their but of the wisdom.their is no need to build it there their is already one a few blocks a way... this entire thing is just to add insult to injury