Spectacular Deliveries - Self report

Hello,

Co-owner of Spectacular Deliveries, by the alias Ko.

I'm self-reporting my exit scam with full details to make it easier. I want to express my transparency, hence making this post.

To start off with the reasoning, running the service has become incredibly stressful as the sole manager. We started off with 4 owners, 1 left on good terms, CrazyDavy stepped down to moderate tickets, leaving myself and Hackerman as owners.

There a multitude of reasons but to simplify it. I'm solely to blame for what's happened, but I would still like to give the reasons;

- Genuinely not worth it anymore. The server started off with 0% tax on orders to continue work from GT. It became more time consuming, and with a worker scamming a customer, we introduced a 5% tax cut. This wasn't even suffice to keep up the costings of the server, so we upt it to 10%.

- Worker engagement. We had 11 workers in total and there was a consistency of workers abandoning jobs, ignoring warnings and not communicating. This lead to myself trying to pick up the pieces, to the point I've been working on 4-6 accounts at once to keep customers happy.

- Lack of support from the co-owner.

Primarily the biggest reason this has happened. Hackerman was co-owner of the discord and had equal value to the services as I did. He helped found the discord and helped run it. Within the 30 minutes this has happened, his responses has been deplorable, to partial point of the reason I'm making this post.

I've known Hackerman for a while, I've completed roughly 4-5b worth of orders for him, including over 150 SotF storylines. Hackerman would never respond to discord queries, messages from myself or others.

CrazyDavy, while only a mod, still received portions of the taxes, but majority of our earnings were going to Hackerman to work and maintain the discord bots. It has been roughly 3 months with no work completed.

Onto the losses:

5.8b in total was scammed, this consisted of:

- Twisted bow - Lent via customer
- 2 Shadows - Lent via customer & worker
- Remainder in wealth via GP.



Worker deposits - 1,622,500,000gp
Customer balance - 27,000,000gp
Unpaid balance (primarily uncompleted work) - 1,259,410,000gp
Server balance - 279,680,000gp
Float (wealth unallocated to the above) - 1,072,800,000gp

I initially asked Hackerman for his personal twisted bow, to help with an order. With his fashion of not responding, I ended up lending a customers bow.

With Hackermans above response, I held out the exitscam to try and obtain the bow, to pay off all the workers. After myself and Hackerman "made up" and "agreed to communicate better", he ghosted me. As I was unfortunately unable to confirm when or if I would ever receive the bow, I decided to just leave it.

To finalize,

1) Customers, I sincerely apologize. The customer who got hurt the most, it was primarily due to workers just abandoning your job. I sincerely intended to complete the work (95 kree kc out of 750), I just couldn't keep up & maintain.

Everything I have said and done up until this weekend just gone, has been 100% genuine. I've just sadly hit breaking point.


2) Workers, I'm communicating with CrazyDavy & Space, as despite Hackerman instantly jumping ship and spreading false rumours, I had hoped he would intend to help pay off some of the debts, I will be paying off what work the workers have completed. Please communicate with both of them once you've completed work. I can understand customers cancelling everything & changing passwords, but what work is left to be done, will still be paid out.

I've already sent Space £60 to pay off one worker for outstanding work. Obviously I won't be paying for any work un-completed.


3) Regardless of what Hackerman has said, he was co-owner. He received the same payment % as I did. I request that Hackerman compensates the customers debt, while I compensate the workers.

Laugh or mock at this request, he was Co-owner, works and does business on Sythe. He was paid to make, work, fix and complete bots, to which he completed 10% of. Any customers could tell you how shit the bots were. He received roughly 130 euro for bot maintenance. I hope it shows how fast he is to jump ship conclude his behaviour.


I don't use Sythe and I'm fully done with RS. Any bans etc I fully accept.

I'll stick around for a day or two to answer any questions or concerns, and then I'm gone.


Edit:



Keeping a log of the workers being paid back, as well as those who aren't. I'm returning funds to some customers I liked, who aren't genuine cunts.

Paid:

MelkorUWU uncompleted work / imgur.com - MelkorUWU, 300m unpaid work. I paid Space £60, to forward this onto Melkor. However I will be paying workers directly moving forward.

imgur.com - 200m deposit returned

CrazyDavy, Paid 130m via BTC - imgur.com (Davy had no deposit as was a mod).



Unpaid:

Misery abandoned multiple jobs weeks prior to this incident and technically should have been dismissed without deposit. So therefore won't receive deposit.

Colton, a lesser version of Misery, happy to return 100m deposit.

Katzu, will return 200m deposit & 15.660m unpaid work.

Chris, with 1 warning already, continued to break multiple worker ToS, so forfeits deposit. I will however return the staff, albeit, will be the last thing I return.

IR0N, will return 200m deposit. Infact, IR0N owes me 4.9m lmao, for work I completed on this account.

Realkit, Real has disappeared for over 2 months. If he ever returns, then happy to return 200m.

Wombat, will return 200m deposit.

Jointhits was a customer who paid 160m for an order. Hit me up and I'll return this. You were always genuine.

wolfb - I owe 22.5m


Workers I suppose can confirm in this here.

 

Supporting evidence if needed for anything:

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Hey yo. I've been missing a few days actually burnt of everything. There's a lot of trash happening into my life. I did my best to try helping out with the customer order and keeping my troubles out of the way, even I lend my tumeken's shadow for speed up the kcs and U said me u were fine doloing it. I did even talked with u and agreeding for lending u the staff or tbow for ur completion of X tasks-pvm etc as I consider u a friend. U could at least ask me for spending more time on pvm or something. U asked for Trust and I trusted You. U know as me (and prob more) how hard was the GT exit-scam for us. Could u gave me back the shadow or 50% at least?

 

Chris, everything on the workers side is being compensated by me, and this includes your staff. Just keep in touch and message me on discord, or Space/Davy. It'll just take time.

But on a side note Chris, I'm being honest in here, so I ask you at least do the same. You've been ghosting me for more than a few days. You consistently promised deadlines then never responded to me or customers I assigned you work to do. You already had previous warnings. Don't say "U could at least ask me for spending more time on pvm or something". I seriously needed your help, the PM's prove it but you never responded. If you were a friend, you would have updated me or at least respond lol

Lastly, you gave me the staff as insurance, as the customer was giving his to the account for you to use. You didn't give me the staff to speed up the job, you had the staff to do the job. You and the other worker abandoned the job. You didn't give me any notice, while the other worker did.

I made this post to clarify everything, primarily the costings. If you have personal issues, then PM me.

 

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I tried to message u today and wasn't possible. If u added me on Whatsapp I could let u know what was happening. I didn't check discord since saturday even I've some closer friends asking about what happened to me. I paid attention since the first warning and took care for doing everything perfect as I could and u witness the change. I gave the staff as Insurance cuz doing that order on a zerker were so hard and u said that was a posibility, it actually was for speeding up the order cuz doing it with chins with no task would be pain and the staff increases the kph, I didn't resing the job, but I have to attmit I was missing hard the past week

 

U say It'll take time, is there an ETA?

 

Bud, I had access to your account when I liquidated and didn't touch a thing, along with many others, aside from 1.

Workers are being paid out and I've admitted to everything. I didn't gather wealth with intentions to quit. What I had is what I left with.

So continue to insult me. Means nothing. I don't have to be here. I don't have to pay anyone. I'm choosing to be here and choosing to pay.

But fuck your trust. You only started using us after you got people to beg me to give you a perm 10% discount. You gave zero shits about supporting us when we started, you only cared whose cheapest.

 

@Pikachu

Good afternoon.

I cannot provide proof. I have wiped everything clean of OSRS, and this includes RL screenshots of trades (for example, muling gold off). Not for malicious intent or to avoid blame, purely because I'm fully done with the game with zero interest of returning.

In terms of co-owner responsibilities, as I'm no longer in the discord, I'm unable to grab specifics, but fortunately Hackerman provided some screenshots in his post, to which I can give more context on.

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4 of us were managing the discord and each had our own role. We eventually introduced a 5% tax to cover bot costs, which was split up 25% equally. Viler wanted to leave, and as mentioned, we all left on good terms, thus made the split 33% each.

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The above screenshot hopefully proves that myself, Hackerman & CrazyDavy all received 33% split equally.

All profits went to the server. We were only taxing 5% for a good duration, roughly 100m that was saved up went to Hackerman once a month to pay for the bot costs. And as mentioned, these screenshots have been wiped since.

In regards to the titles, as displayed on Hackermans report, they were cosmetic. Viler initially made the discord and created the title 'Owner'. Having 4 owners at the time seemed weird but it was discussed that we would work around this.

The only evidence I have left is the above and OC screenshots, displaying our service data (i.e. pays/debts/deposits/etc)


Theoretically, all 3 of us were equals, as we all received the same pay %. Hackermans lack of communication caused a few disruptions throughout the service. The roles being one. The role 'Owner' was going to be replaced with specific roles, but I never received discord ownership to adjust these.

I managed the interface & prices, as well as tickets/recruiting, Davy managed the tickets & helped with prices, Hackerman did the bots & commands. If there were internal affairs, we collectively agreed on the outcome. It wasn't a sole decision. No one was the boss of 'all'. I did considerably more than the others, but that doesn't mean I was the "ultimate" owner.

Apologies it's not hard evidence, but it is what it is.

 

Davy was there till the end. Only Viler ever left management.

After Viler gave Hackerman discord ownership, evidenced in Hackermans post, Hackerman had ownership till I exit scammed.

I don't have proof to post, you're more then welcome to ask them directly

 

I know reading isn't your strong point but 3 sentences into my OP states "I'm solely to blame for what's happened".

 

@scriptoboy has discord ownership. This is how the server was setup when the scammed happened:
https://i.imgur.com/fPWdjTd.png

I left the server after Hackerman (Scriptoboy) removed Moderator rights from the management section(s) for me.
https://i.imgur.com/MzTGAKk.png

I was always a moderator in the discord and had limited rights compared to the owners.

I'd also add that while on the spreadsheet I received 33% of the tax, I never received a penny of this money. This was held by Ko and used to pay Hackerman for server costs or to do server giveaways. The funds that remained were taken by Ko during his exit scam.

Server balance on June 14th, after Ko exit scammed, before he wiped the spreadsheet on the 15th. Katzu was also given Moderator role by Ko but received less of the tax.
https://i.imgur.com/Tcbff20.png

 

Others implies more than one, which isn't true.

IR0N, it's an exitscam. Not a loan. The name's in the title. I couldn't give two shits if the debts are paid off or not by someone else. Albeit I didn't want to see uncompleted work go unpaid and paid off any completed debts.

If a company did you dirty, do you pinpoint the CEO or the company as a whole? Can the company turn around and say "Well we fired the CEO so we don't owe you anything now". We had no sole owner. It was primarily myself & Hackerman. But his shitty business practice, getting paid for uncompleted work & zero communication skills, what I did as I said above is my own doing, but he was the last straw

This whole case could have been closed on day one and it wouldn't have effected me in any way.

 

I think my other report is already quite complete, but I will make some additions based on what is discussed here.

You request proof of three things from KoServices,

1) Proof of our agreement on the co-ownership. KoServices can't share any proof because there was no Co-ownership agreement in place that we both agreed on that discussed splitting the business 50/50 as Co-Owners as he claims, or anything closely resembling that.

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Hackerman — 06/12/2023 4:23 PM
I believe I specifically mentioned I would not have the time to invest in running the server or partaking in the operational part of the services, just making a bot for you


Koss — 06/12/2023 4:28 PM
Not the operations, I've never expected you to start answering tickets ha But I've questioned the discord bots, passed on bugs and feedback from customers, I don't think youve responded once to


2)Screenshots of receiving my "portion of the profit". Like I mentioned in my other report, I never received any payments in profit shares, that's why these screenshots do not exist. I shared the screenshots of the compensation I received for costs I made for hosting the bot. If required, I can share the invoices of these hosting costs to show that all I ever received as a compensation was these costs I made.

3)Proof of me receiving the same percentage payment as he did. There is no proof for this because there was no percentage of profit payment ever shared. He is the only one that had access to the server funds and floating money, and left with all the money in his crypto wallets and Cashapp.



He fails to deliver proof in all three of these area's. In addition to everything I already shared on his role as owner, my symbolic role as co-owner, him referring to himself as the "owner owner", he is even referring to himself as the sole manager in this self report,

I think I made my case, combined with my detailed report that I already posted. I shared plenty of proof that my involvement was developing a Discord bot for him, while he handled all other aspects of his business from operations to personnel, from customer jobs to finances.


Server ownership
I believe I already clarified why and how I was pushed into Discord Ownership by Ko in my other report, but just to clarify again:


Koss — 03/10/2023 11:22 AM
Im thinking, with you working on bots, we could nip it in the bud early.Maybe get Vil to transfer you the server owner under the premise you need it for the bots


Based on this idea, I requested the transfer of the ownership to my name, hence is why I am currently server owner.

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If there is any more information you require from me to clarify things, please let me know @Pikachu

 

As I mentioned before, there never was a formal agreement of shared ownership, or anything closely resembling that, in place. Merely an overview of tasks proposed by Ko, where I make clear my only involvement in the project will be making a bot, after we joined the project created by Ko and VIL (or Wash after his name change). The only determination of ownership, being the discussion below, is where Ko proposes and sets himself as owner, in agreement with his other founder VIL. There is no agreement in which Ko and myself agree to a 50/50 shared ownership of the discord, as he claims.

Per your request, I provided some more context to the screenshot you mentioned, which further strengthens my point. Based on the screenshots, the following can be concluded:

-There is no shared ownership agreement defined or in place, with discussed terms and agreement between both Ko and myself.
-There is no basis for Ko claiming that we are 50/50 shared owners
-Based on the tasks Ko suggests himself, he nominates himself as owner
-I make clear my only involvement will be making a bot
-Everyone, including his co-founder VIL agrees with Ko being owner.
-He further confirms the choice for him as sole owner by saying he is the one in charge of all finances, which is why it would make sense for him to be owner.

Ko and VIL started the Discord. At the end of the screenshots, they get to decide on ownership, and the conclusion is Ko becoming sole owner.

In this message below, Ko clearly nominates himself for being owner:

Koss — 03/10/2023 8:55 PM

As for "owner owner", I'd nominate myself, only because I think most of the workers trust me here, as well as customers. Since i've been dealing with all of the jobs, giving davy or hacker the only-owner role may start to throw people off if I just title myself as a mod.



And at the end, the concensus is that Ko is the sole owner:


Hackerman — 03/10/2023 9:04 PM

And, I am okay with Ko being owner


CrazyDavy — 03/10/2023 9:04 PM

Yeah sounds good


Hackerman — 03/10/2023 9:04 PM
I think thats a discussion for you and VIL


Wash — 03/10/2023 9:04 PM

Tbh I see Koss more as a owner then me

So il@be support manager


Koss — 03/10/2023 9:08 PM

Since im currently in charge of payments, it was another reason why it made sense for me to be owner



Screenshots of the context as requested:
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