Heavy Petting (Please be mature)

Sorry but its sick i really think that anyone that posts about this has some sort of Mental challenge Or are just stupid . Sex with animals is disgusting .

 

If the animal cannot communicate clearly in some way that it wants to have sex for the sake of pleasure, than it does not render the ability to accept sexual advance by humans.

Makes it inhumane. Morality is a matter of common beliefs.

 

What does that have to do with anything?

 

I think that You know what is wrong and right If you dont know the diffrence then your clearly Sick.

 

It being morally wrong to most people is why its so taboo in almost every culture. While to some it may be just as normal as a foot fetish (Although they probably have that too sooooo....)

I personally think its disgusting. But people should be free to do what they want, as long as they dont push gross shit like that on other people, or harm the animal.

(I hardly read any of the other posts btw)

 

No, I am not.

Eating is a form of survival. We eat meat so that we can obtain the necessary amino acids and protein to grow. I believe that eating another species is just because it comes from the instinct to survive. We humans used to also eat other humans that we were not allied with, but today all humans recognize we must (somewhat) fight together as a species and therefore we should pray on other animals instead of ourselves. For example, I have no problem for a lion to eat a human.

However, sex is another matter. Sex is not necessary for survival, it is for recreation and pure pleasure. Having sex with a non-human animal would be, as I said before, unacceptable because animals cannot say no and the act is not necessary for our survival.

 

Everything.

Did you completely miss my post? What nutritional survival is there in eating fast food? Have you ever eaten anything from fast food, ever?

The amount of waste, the deterioration it causes to your body, everything... fast food is purely a pleasure, it's not in any way for survival... yet McDonalds is one of the biggest users of slaughterhouse meat IN THE WORLD. That may seem small, but if you combine all the fast food chains, and all that waste... Your eating meat is promoting slaughterhouses which are not necessary for survival as they kill more than is consumed.

If you really wanna preach survival, kill your own damned food and stop supporting the meaningless slaughter of millions of animals for your own damn lazy pleasure.

 

I hate to nitpick, but by your rationale you should be throwing your computer out the window and switching off your lights, since they're not necessary for survival.

 

As Angelmax posted previously, many things are not necessary for human survival. Our race can live without houses, without entertainment, without transport - all we need is food, water, warmth and shelter from the elements. We don't even need to eat meat and could survive just as well living off a vegan diet. Can you honestly say to me that every action you have performed up to this stage of your life was because it was crucial for your survival?

Animals aren't given a choice to whether they wish to be slaughtered or kept alive. If you see no problem with eating animal flesh, then you should see no problem with beastiality. Indeed beastiality is far less cruel to the creature than simply using it as a food source - beasts like chickens live in horrible conditions before they are killed - as they do not live in such conditions nor suffer death as a consequence of the actions of the human.

 

Well, there's nothing morally wrong with using your computer for certain things. Unless you are commiting crimes and things of that sort. The reason he is saying that it is wrong is because it's another living, breathing thing, that you just want to have sex with just because that's what you are sexually attracted to for some reason. I mean like it has been stated before animals cannot say no to sex and even if they wanted to have sex with a human being don't you think there is a reason it is shunned?

I do not see how the McDonald's thing is relevant here...I mean yes, they do kill animals, but it is for food...We cannot help how McDonald's chooses to do things. Here's the thing, if you suggest being a vegan is better...Aren't plants living things too? So you are still killing plants too get that food.

 

Wrong.

I will use an example ( Note: May be fairly over descriptive as i dont know any other way to describe such a thing. )

If a women, was sexually attracted to Animals ( In this case i will use horses for the example )

The horse is by no means going to "mount" her... Shes going to have to do pretty much all of it by herself, and during that period if the horse didn't want it, he would move his ass.


Animals have ways of saying no, have you never had a pet before? Have you ever tried to take a dog on a walk when it doesn't want to go, or anything similar to that? If it doesn't want to do it, it wont do it.

You might think animals are stupid, but they aren't stupid enough to say no and fight back. If you don't believe me, simply quote this and say so and i will go to the trouble of getting stories of animals fighting back, it wont be hard.

I myself don't think bestiality is a taboo, nor do i think it is unacceptable for any person to have sexual attraction towards an animal. A lot more things are accepted now then what use to be, and a lot of people have had at one point in there lives, been turned on by something involving an animal.

" If it exists, there is porn of it " - For the most part thats true.

Id like you too give me good proof of an animal not being able to show clear signs of not wanting it.

There are plenty of species that have sex for pleasure.

If your going to argue on a thread thats being taken as seriously as this, please research something first.

 

True, but we do need these foods for survival.
The means we go about getting them are unorthodox.

 

My computer doesn't rape unwilling animals. I justified killing with survival, I did not say everything must be focused on survival, humans have evolved past that.

First off, no need to criticize, I was completely aware that there are ways an animal can avoid contact with humans sexually.

However, I believe you are missing my argument.
If a male walks up behind an animal and penetrates it before it even knows that was the man's intentions. Should the man be tried for rape? Who would enforce these rules? How would the animal report him?

These are issues that must be considered before you argue to legalize zoophilia.

I'd have respected you a lot more if you didn't use subjective words like clearly which have no basis in an argument not supported by fact.

I eat meat because:
1. 98% of society around me does it, and I was brought up to do it from a very young age (before I was born)
2. I need the protein and amino acids from them that are necessary for full growth. Supplements such as peanut butter, tofu, or rice and beans only provide on average 8 of the 20 amino acids, and while they provide the critical ones, the others improve bone strength and growth.
3. I think most types of meat taste good.

So I do eat meats because I want to, but there is actually much more force driving me to eat them than my taste buds, or even their health benefits, which brings me to my next point, instinct.

If you are a non-test tube baby and have a mother who eats meat, you have been consuming meat and growing an "addiction" to it ever since you were a fetus.
In addition, humans have been eating meat for over two million years. Our bodies have developed to be able to digest meat and even crave it for their survival.

"The human body evolved over millions of years breathing, drinking, and eating what it found in nature as it was found in nature. Evolution 'designed' the human body to survive best on what it found in nature. What it found was fresh, raw, unprepared."
- Frederick Mann

OK, so let's say for argument's sake: I admit it, eating animals is in fact cruel.
But shouldn't your argument be to reduce or eliminate the eating of animals, not using it to justify another cruel act towards animals?