Proving you didn't recover?

As an account seller I've been wondering. You sell an account, the person sends u the money. A week later, he charges back the money saying you recovered the account. Next he reports you on sythe for "Scamming", how do you respond? "I did not recover the account." What if he just forgot his password, what if he is just doing this for shits and giggles, what kind of seller protection (Lol'd) is there?

 

tbh ima check up on this thread because i have no idea, and i know what u mean because its happened to me before and i want to find out the same thing

 

Well.. there's nothin' you can do really, as he got the money back?

If he cant dispute the money and you didnt recover the account from him.. Just help him out gettin' it back

 

that way he will have the money and the account? And what if you don't even have enough info to get it back.

 

its his responsibilty after you give him the info.

 

Did he get the $ back?

 

Go to your posts hit the "edit" button, then "delete", then "delete message"

Its a Hypothetical.

 

ok thanks and as i was saying. its his problem after you sell it to him

 

that's actually NOT how it works.
OT - There is nothing that you need to do. If you've used a middleman, the details would be given to him, and he should've removed enough on his own so that you could no longer recover. If he recovers the money without proof that you have the account, YOU can report HIM for scamming.

 

yeah theres nothing u can do dont trade unless they are trused.

 

I would love to see that written somewhere because I just doubt it.

 

I dont think there is anything you can do but there diffenetly should be.

 

^^^^^^

 

The only way to clear your name is to recover the account, and timestamp a picture of the login IP.
If it shows the buyers IP as the last logged in (after the date which he claims it was recovered), then he's faking it.

Of course there are ways to circumvent even this but it would take too much planning.

 

lol recover the account to prove that I didn't recover it.

 

i dont think there is a solid proof

 

A good way to avoid this is to include a clause in your sale which states after the account leaves your possession, you are not responsible for any bans/mutes/hacking of the account. If you are a legit seller then the context of the sale will be taken into consideration, you should be fine. I have had it happen to me a few times and as long as its not completely obvious you recovered the account, you should be fine.

 

Recover it yourself, take a pic of login with the current clock next to it, return it to the user. As long as you show its not your ip that recovered it you should be in the clear.

 

I would do the recover/timestamp ordeal - good idea.

and use only Paypal gift, as far as i know you cant chargeback a paypal gift?

*google abounds*

Looks like the best way to do it is PAYMENT OWED - for an item they have already received.

or MM/OMM it. if the MM/OMM sends it they wont be chargebacking.

 

Yeah, Thats a big problem.. Nowa days, Paypal dont refund virtual items.. When i rang them because i got scammed once.. They said :

"Thank you for calling paypal, Unfortunatly, We cannot refund the ammount because it is a virtual item, we only do refunds on items you can literally touch, pickup and move around, Sorry for any inconvience. Paypal Limited "

So.. Yeah.....