Sythe.org has no idea what it's own rules are

Don't lock this thread, if you feel this belongs in community general then move it their don't try to cover your asses by locking or deleting it. This is just as much a community discussion as it is feedback.

Firstly let me put it into proper perspective for you, in as many ways as I can.

How would you feel, if you quit Runescape for a year and found out someone here at Sythe had recovered your account. Then imagine how you'd feel if they didn't get banned for it! Because here at Sythe, it's not against the rules.

Now, increase the amount of years ago you quit. One year, two years, three years, four years or more. Do you people honestly fucking think there is a time limit in which someone hasn't played that makes it alright for you to STEAL their account?

You seriously cannot fucking justify it with 'they won't be coming back' - you don't know that, you don't know how long ago they quit and when their last login was until you STEAL THEIR ACCOUNT FIRST.

Do you people honestly think, recovering someones account because Jagex has a shitty recovery system is any different from cracking their account? Scamming their account? Phishing their account? RAT'ing their account?

Let me present to you the retards who think recovering accounts that aren't theirs is alright and/or help support it such as Tmoe:

The people who thought it'd be awesome to receive/buy a guide that is clearly labeled 'Selling Account Recovery Method - Hack Bills'

Innocent mistake? They didn't know or weren't sure it was against the rules? Yeah right, I'm sure they just didn't read that the thread said 'HACK ACCOUNTS' or that the OP said 'What? Its to recover accounts that don't belong to you' just a few posts down.

http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=854991

Now the people who jumped at the chance to steal accounts on a neatly laid out list for them:

Nevermind the thread was deleted (LOL SUCH A COINCIDENCE), it was the one in the RSbot General Discussion titled 'list of 2k accounts to recover'. Like 20 people all jumped at the chance and decided to try, posting their ever so successful account STEALING efforts.

Members banned for recovering accounts:

Blazelion - http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=838699

Nawoo - http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=826291&page=4

Two members who have done the exact same thing and even fucked themselves by posting proof they recovered accounts yet are not banned because apparently when it comes to these two members, recovering accounts is now a 'grey area' and they won't even unban the two members who were actually banned for it.

Jet_Black - http://yfrog.com/2tjetblackrecoveryp

Fuzion Ltd - http://yfrog.com/3mfuzionltdrecoveryp

Oh, you should probably know that about 7/10 of the rare names or rich accounts that people magically 'acquired' with loads of rares that are being sold on the market, are essentially hacked or stolen accounts.

So really, why aren't any rules being enforced? Why don't you make it clear that recovering accounts is not allowed instead of letting people get away with it?

Really I just don't understand how people think it's alright. I have no doubt this thread will get locked or deleted and it's guaranteed people will recycle the same shit like 'they haven't played in years it doesn't matter'.

Discuss.

 

Tl;dr
trading runescape accounts always ends up
in someone getting fucked over
the grey area guys should be banned

 

Since I feel that this is completely relevant, I have decided to give a random lecture.

Some people, such as newer members decide not to read the rules, but then they, of course, will eventually be forced to read the rules, which may be because of two reasons:

a. They think that the rules will be common sense, and will decide not to read them, when they may be completely different to other forum's rules.

b. They didn't see them.

Now, if one of those new members fails to read the rules, and posts a thread which may be against the rules, you do NOT go on and flame it. You post a gentle notice that it is against the rules, asking them to remove certain sections, or even the whole thing. I've seen that thread that you were discussing, and let me tell you: You were certainly not gentle, and you were certainly not kind.

Now, onto the older members. Yes, Tmoe should have read the rules, and therefore he should have known that that was an illegitimate thread. I agree with you.

In a way, I do slightly agree with you that in some sections, mods aren't enforcing the rules all too well. I also feel that some mods don't even do anything about these illegitimate threads.

On the other hand, most of the other forums are well moderated, and the rules certainly are inforced. It's just some, less significant forums, with less viewers, such as the guides forum or others.

Overall, I think that some forums do need more moderation, although most forums are already perfect.

-RS2

EDIT: I also completely agree with you that recovering accounts should be discouraged and not allowed, because it is not exactly safe to sell these recovered accounts (Because the original owner may notice and recover it), and the fact that innocent people are losing their hard-worked on accounts. 100% agree on the Anti-Recover. It's not fair, and it's not safe.

 

Agree. This should be against the rules completely. There is no grey area. It's stealing, which is worse than scamming.

 

Sorry your entire lecture is irrelevant because the guy was either a ban evader or on a new account because he knew it was against the rules.

Besides that one issue is just a piece of evidence, there are more important things mentioned such as the people who jumped out to buy the guide.

 

"Selling scamming guide $10" pretty much.

And wow tmoe.
That guy should be banned, and the thread locked.

 

It's not completely irrelevant. We're not just talking about that one thread, are we? I am talking in general, although I referred to that thread in some points.

And, yes, as for the people who jumped to buy it, I'm sure they're just looking for the "Phr33 st00f" and have clearly not read the rules, though they should have. I'm on your side on this.

 

Think about this. What if your account was on that list that he claims to have? What if your account was recovered? How is he to know that the accounts he is recovering are actually inactive, and if they aren't, does he care?

Recovering an account, that isn't yours is practically scamming, after a trade, only the trade part is missing.

 

Honestly, Its your fault were even attempting to trade accounts in the first place, you know what kind of reputation the Black Market has. Don't Bitch about it.

 

Did you even read the post?

 

I see once again there is always someone who can't read nor understand simple things..

This is a thread about people breaking the rules Sythe.org has implemented and then getting away with it..

Please if that is too complex for you to comprehend, leave and return with the fifth grade education you seem to lack.

 

Edit: Sorry, just read the second half your post, didnt see it.

 

I told you this was being discussed. There's no need for any further threads from you with regards to this.