Different staff give different treatment

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Different staff give different treatment
  1. Unread #1 - Jun 8, 2010 at 5:03 PM
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    Different staff give different treatment

    First, can I start off by saying I am not purposely attacking anyone in this thread, nor am I too fussed about this infraction.

    I was just curious as to why different staff members treat people differently. I'll let the pictures explain.

    Here we see SuF reverse an infraction for an oversized signature of which he did resize after being notified about it

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    Here we see the typical "You have been infracted for an oversized signature" PM. As soon as I received this PM, I editted my signature to an appropriate size.

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    ...Yet the infraction was not reversed.

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    Again, I'm not complaining and I'm really not that bothered about 1 infraction. I just think it would be worth making the rules a little more clear and making punishments more equal.
     
  3. Unread #2 - Jun 8, 2010 at 5:14 PM
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    Different staff give different treatment

    If you flame a person, get infracted, then edits the post so it no longer flames, is it fair that the infraction should get reversed then?

    I'm not sure about this, but I believe the one SuF reversed where given while he where in the process of changing his signature. If I'm wrong about this I'll bring it up with the other moderators.

    Thanks for the feedback.
     
  5. Unread #3 - Jun 8, 2010 at 5:15 PM
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    Each mod uses discresion, I belive that if you did break the signiture rule then the infraction should say.
     
  7. Unread #4 - Jun 8, 2010 at 5:17 PM
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    Different staff give different treatment

    I've had similar-ish experiences, but they're all different people. It's to be expected really I guess. Depends on moods and shit too.
     
  9. Unread #5 - Jun 8, 2010 at 5:21 PM
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    Different staff give different treatment

    The bottom line is that the rule is you get the infraction. At the discretion of the moderator they may be taken off depending on the user who received it (i.e. if he is new, if he has only done it once and was not aware, etc.).
     
  11. Unread #6 - Jun 8, 2010 at 8:24 PM
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    Different staff give different treatment

    Some mods are stricter than others, and we each think differently. Infractions aren't meant to be punishments, rather they should encourage you to follow the rules. I generally reverse infractions to new members, but neither SuF or Sindre are at fault as the infraction was warranted.
     
  13. Unread #7 - Jun 8, 2010 at 8:32 PM
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    Different staff give different treatment

    Every mod is different and I myself am overly nice at points. He said that he was changing around his sig and he noticed it was too big so he changed it. I believed him and even if he was lying, its only an infraction.
     
  15. Unread #8 - Jun 8, 2010 at 8:34 PM
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    Different staff give different treatment

    I don't think we need someone to say "Each mod has their own personality and blah blah blah" in another way.

    But dude, it's not a big deal, if it were a serious matter, the ONE mod wouldn't have made the decision, but in the end, it's not a serious decision, it's one infraction. We're all going to make it through this.
     
  17. Unread #9 - Jun 8, 2010 at 8:53 PM
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    ;-dsaf
     
  19. Unread #10 - Jun 8, 2010 at 9:24 PM
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    Different staff give different treatment

    Holy macaroni you do bring up a good point but think of it this way if sythe were to make a rule for every situation then mods wouldn't be able to give second chances to people that deserve them. For instance Syed and his shared vpn, although syed did share a vpn and technically broke sythe's rules. He hasn't ever shown that he's a scammer, and in my opinion has shown that he is a trustworthy. Where as if a leecher were to use a shared ip of a scammer, most would agree that he should be banned. In simple terms think of mods as judges, they have set rules but often punish people differently depending on the situation.
     
  21. Unread #11 - Jun 9, 2010 at 12:49 AM
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    It is really irrelevant due to the fact that is is one infraction. Everyone's circumstances are different, thus a punishment set it stone is hard to follow.
     
  23. Unread #12 - Jun 9, 2010 at 1:12 AM
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    Different staff give different treatment

    I know that. That's what I was trying to stress in the first post.

    I was just concerned, I mean lets say it's on a larger scale. Perhaps a scam report or a dispute? If a certain member of staff dealt with that scam report/dispute it may be put into place or reversed, however if a different member of staff dealt with it, it could be treated differently.

    As above, I'm not trying to make a big deal out of this. It's just an infraction, I know. But perhaps innocent people are being banned and 'guilty' people are being unbanned depending on the mod dealing with the case.

    That's all I have to say.
     
  25. Unread #13 - Jun 9, 2010 at 5:55 AM
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    My friend, that is the luck of the draw!
     
  27. Unread #14 - Jun 9, 2010 at 7:05 AM
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    Different staff give different treatment

    Scam reports are different. If there is an question, multiple staff members get involved.
     
  29. Unread #15 - Jun 9, 2010 at 7:29 AM
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    Same thing happened to me i think i got 7 signature infractions. Nick didnt reverse any even though i tried to make them smaller while i fixing them up. The others are from Skele master he reversed it since he was nice. The rest came from others but i didn't argue since i wasn't changing the sig.
     
  31. Unread #16 - Jun 9, 2010 at 8:42 AM
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    I infract myself in order to satisfy the morning urge/rush.. However in all honesty, I give the member the benefit of doubt and if possible allow them to correct their issue/post.
     
  33. Unread #17 - Jun 9, 2010 at 10:55 AM
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    Different staff give different treatment

    Having a sig that's too big is a call for a mod to make....Some mods are nazis on things like that and have to check the pixels, while others could care less.
     
  35. Unread #18 - Jun 9, 2010 at 12:26 PM
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    Different staff give different treatment

    All mods should infract/warn the user if (s)he's signature is too big.
     
  37. Unread #19 - Jun 9, 2010 at 12:33 PM
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    Different staff give different treatment

    Well, some mods are nazi's and measure pixels. That was a major drama storm when we made the sig size rule. People were going around measuring sigs to the pixel and even 1 pixel over was a massive fucking problem for people. For some reason.
     
  39. Unread #20 - Jun 9, 2010 at 1:17 PM
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    Yea, I got one for it bein like a few pixels over. Which I think is rediculous. I mean seriously cus mines what 705 and the limits 700? Honestly does that whole 5 pixels make a difference?
     
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