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    Basically, what I'm posting is that, I believe some " Cons, or Felons " deserve a second chance at their rights, hell, you have some people, who are like.. Cons for about 50 years, and they have nothing. I, personally, don't think this is right. I mean, give them their prison time, and then give them some rights back. If your a Con, you can't have any goverment positions, vote, etc..

    I honestly, think they should be able to atleast vote, give them a chance to turn their life around.

    What do you think?
     
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    Obviously the main issue is what they were guilty of doing...
     
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    Thats why the saying do the crime you do the time is still well said to this date. yeh "some" deserve a second change but most of them dont.
     
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    That doesn't matter as long as they did their time.

    See above.
     
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    The real question is - "Is the purpose of prison time rehabilitation or punishment?"
    They go to prison, where they cost the state money. When prisoner's leave, they get released into the normal world, wherein many cases, they simply reoffend and continue to be a burden to society. I think that punishment is necessary and the way it goes, it's not unfair at all. It's one lifetime and you should be held accountable for your actions throughout that lifetime.
     
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    Maybe, but surely if they were incarcerated for electoral fraud they should not be able to vote, but if their crime was shoplifting there is no reason they should not.
     
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    If you did your time, you're out and should be able to vote. If you murdered someone, you're not out. You think a murderer deserves a second chance?
     
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    Depends on the reasons and circumstances of the murder.
     
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    Why? If they did their time then you have no right to tell them that they can't enjoy their freedom again.

    I think everyone deserves a second chance. We all make mistakes, some bigger than others. Even if they did it on purpose, unless you give them a life sentence then you are obviously giving them a second chance.
     
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    Often people sentenced to life imprisonment are released early, around 35 or 40 years after the crime. Surely they haven't necessarily 'served their time', but they are still free in the wider world.
     
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    They have the chance to turn their lives around, once they get out.

    However, the logic of it is that giving government positions to those who are known to have went against that very governments rules, and got themselves landed in jail for it, aren't generally fit to have those government positions.

    This includes voting. There votes decide the electoral colleges votes. It's a generally bad idea, like I said before, to allow someone to have a hand in government issues, after breaking that same governments rules.
     
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    Do you really think a convict is going to care about one of those stupid rights. Their just gonna enjoy the fact that their out of jail. What they do after is their problem, go rape/murder/steal again if you'd like or do something positive.
     
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    Not everything thinks of those "stupid rights" as "stupid rights". A lot of people land places in jail for abusing their right to opinion on those same "stupid rights".

    In any case, it'd be only too convenient if before you post about the "stupid rights", you decided not to.
     
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    They had their second chance in their mind. They make that decision knowing the consequences.

    However, I do believe some punishments are extremely harsh. Such as that 20 year old who might be sentenced to 50 years in jail for hacking Sarah Palin's email account.
     
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