not a scam report but cant reach a conclusion with luckycharm

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  1. Unread #1 - Sep 29, 2022 at 6:56 AM
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    not a scam report but cant reach a conclusion with luckycharm

    Sorry if this is not articulated well, I’m at work at the moment and I’ll try to keep this short .

    I paid his worker 14M to get my pure a firecape, he died and got 2 defence on blowpipe.

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    Account in question: imgur.com
    It hs 99 mage - 95 range, quested, mage2.

    I just can’t take it seriously that hes offering a 10$ refund and telling me to waste my time trying to sell a 2 def pure in a oversaturated market.
     
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  3. Unread #2 - Sep 30, 2022 at 12:18 PM
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    Hey sorry for the late reply, have been extremely busy irl.

    Terms of service that is relevant in this case and that was agreed too:

    "In the case we accidently gain attack/defence levels we will work out a solution with you as a customer, please specify when you have a specific account build such as a pure. "

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    First you wanted to sell me the account for $110, then you mentioned how you wanted $110 for the 2 defence levels gained - which i don't think is fair.

    We offered you free services but you wanted $110 no matter what...

    So here is an offer for you:

    We get barrows gloves for free on the account (hopefully that is possible without gaining any other attack levels or prayer levels) so that you can sell the account for a zerker. Normally we charge 200M for that so that is around $80 but maybe a bit less given you already have some stats trained and quests levelled.

    What do you say? :)
     
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  5. Unread #3 - Sep 30, 2022 at 2:05 PM
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    Yeah I did read your TOS and did specify that the account is a pure atleast thrice in the ticket. I do admit that I was not typing completely coherent sentences and that’s my bad so I’ll clarify it here;

    when you suggested that I sell the account for 150$ in the market, I offer to sell it to you for 110$, you didn’t want the account, no problemos, just send me the 110$ and I’ll keep the account but you didn’t agree to that. I tried to be fair by first suggesting that the account is worth ATLEAST 80$ and had hoped to set the negotiating price at that.

    I tried to find a fair solution with you as it was an honest mistake and it could’ve happened to anyone. But I just get the feeling that you were trying to jerk me off for a tenner refund and free service which didn’t feel fair considering that using your skilling and questing calculator it would cost 600M to make the exact same account.

    edit: as for the free bglover, no thanks, I’ll let the mods judge and decide how much $ I’m owed. I don’t really care that much about the money but I want you to be held responsible and not troll and offer me a maccies meal for a 2 def account worth ”150$” in your eyes.
     
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  7. Unread #4 - Sep 30, 2022 at 9:34 PM
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    can one of yal provide the full tos that was provided, thanks
     
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    1. Payments are done up front and only accepted by <@&706895522451030156> <@&694951956229390377> or <@&694951946708058260>.
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    At some point i believe you mentioned you didn't want any money for it but i believe you deleted that message.
    That's why i gave you the offer to at least refund the order amount in full.
    After that you told me you believed the account was worth around $80

    You wanted me to buy the account for $110 to then re-sell but i told you i cannot do this.

    Now you want $110 and still keep the account, i don't think that is a fair request at all.

    I am offering you to rebuild your account to a zerker (and refund the order amount of 33M) which increases the value from the account more then when the account was a 1 defence pure, but you also deny this request..

    It seems like you are the one trying to gain the most out of the situation and you are not looking to be helped.

    Any verdict of moderators i am fine with, if they decide i should pay you $110 it's what i will do - even though this request is not reasonable imo
     
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    Nope nothing is deleted, it's still there. I never told you to re-sell it as I don't care what you do with the account but as you didn't want the account I offered to just take the money and I'll keep the account :3 I am also fine with whatever the verdict will be but I'm not asking for the 110$. I want the mods to evaluate the accounts worth accordingly.
     
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    Sure thing, we will wait for a reply - no hard feelings :)
     
  17. Unread #9 - Oct 2, 2022 at 10:58 PM
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    the account isn't fully maxed, while some time has been put into the account the value isn't near the 100+ mark. Though because the account is ruined and will need to either be sold as an 2def pure, or adjusted to be another type of account to sell. I'd estimate that the damage done to the account be in the $60 range + the refund for the firecape and any supplies utilized. the account won't sell for much in its current state, because it's still lacking some of the major key items for a pure, but it's still worth something.
    "14. In the case we accidently gain attack/defence levels we will work out a solution with you as a customer, please specify when you have a specific account build such as a pure." - in the future i'd come to a conclusion for accepting an order incase something happens. Let me know when the payment is complete so I can close the report.
     
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    received danke
     
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