Heroism and the Military

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Heroism and the Military
  1. Unread #21 - Jan 27, 2010 at 2:55 AM
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    You should probably double-check your vocabulary before calling anyone an idiot.
     
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    Let me start by saying that I dont intend to offend anyone. I am in the United States Army. I do not feel that I should be labeled a hero by any means. I volunteered for the job that I do, and I love it. I am an AH-64 (Apache) Helicopter Pilot. I have gone to fight in Bosnia and Afghanistan. I do not feel that it makes me a hero. I see myself as someone who is thankful for everything that I have, and the country that I live it (although it can be shitty sometimes). That is why I joined the military. I have friends killed. Its not a pretty picture, but like I said, we all volunteer for it. If you want to be a hero buy a fucking cape. Because serving your country does not make you a hero. I will finish up by saying although we are not heros, we do deserve respect. Sorry for the long ass post. Lol


    Also, about dragging Canada into it... We didnt drag you into shit. Shouldn't be a part of NATO. There are more countries than the USA and Canada fighting in Afghanistan. Hence NATO. Google it kid.
     
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    Plenty of countries which are not involved with NATO are fighting in Afghanistan.
     
  7. Unread #24 - Jan 27, 2010 at 9:36 AM
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    It's a similar case with other services such as Police, Firefighters etc.

    Yes, they are all paid to do what they do. They all do a good job and without them the world would be a completely different place.

    As for the heroism side of it, i'm undecided, but they do deserve our respect for putting lives on the line so you can sleep sound at night and not have terrorists walking through your streets.
     
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    Dude your so retarded, their millionaires who live in Afghan just a normal or even better life than me and you.

    And no this isn't like the Vietnamese war. For every civilian killed money is paid to the families...

    Don't talk a whole load of shit you don't know about.
     
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    I agree that war is in fact a terrible act of ritualized violence in which the act of killing another man is actually allowed, however you must understand that these "soldiers" you say are some kind of hired goon that will kill their own mother for money.

    Yes, though some wars fought are trivial in nature and can be worked out diplomatically, but what about a man fighting to protect his country and his people? Surely the word patriot comes to mind?
     
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    Perhaps, if they were fighting to defend the country I live in, then I would feel respect for them.

    If they're on the other side of the world, stopping 'Terrorists walking down my street' and yet we still deify them as if they saved a kindergarten full of babies, then there is a problem.
     
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    Maybe I should have been clearer in my post. I meant to say that many Canadians felt the country was dragged into the Iraq war, not the war in Afghanistan. Many countries opposed the occupation of Iraq; there was even opposition amongst many US soldiers and veterans.

    Also, you may not consider yourself a hero, but what you and your comrades do for your country is very heroic and respectable.
     
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    Then where DO you live? OBVIOUSLY you wouldn't have respect for US soldiers if you don't live in America and aren't at all a part of the war... But if you're saying that fighting in another country isn't protecting the home country from terrorism then you're a moron.
     
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    You can be a hero no matter what your job is, it depends on your actions, not your profession. You have to go beyond what is expected of you to be a hero in my opinion.

    Being a soldier doesn't make you a hero, but certain actions whilst fighting would.
     
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    I live in Melbourne, Australia. Do you honestly think that if we weren't at war in the middle east, there would be terrorists 'walking down our streets'? In which case, you're the moron. The so called 'terrorists' didn't start the modern crusades, the american-led coalition did.
     
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    You're blind to current events.

    9-11 = terrorist attack
    Car bombs = terrorist attacks.

    By walking down our streets I'm not saying they're literally going to be walking down my street you idiot. If the terrorists were nonexistent, 9-11 wouldn't have happened. Do we want it to happen again? No. Solution = stop the terrorists. Simple enough for you?
     
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    Why do you think the september 11th attack occurred?
     
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    You do realize that terrorist groups arent affiliated with any country right? So what then do you think invading a country is going to do to fight terrorism... The reason 9/11 happened was due to poor security. All you have to do is simply crank up security and you wont have another 9/11 ever again. You will never defeat terrorism because as long as people hate the US they will try to fucking kill us, and what do you think invading other countries is going to do... You are acting like the terrorists actually flew their planes half way across the world and bombarded us with them lol... pathetic.

    Oh and did I mention that since the US went into Iraq and started the "War on Terror" that terrorism around the world increased by 600%?

    http://motherjones.com/politics/2007/03/iraq-101-aftermath-long-term-thinking
     
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    Hello?? Al-Qaeda?? So how DO we kill terrorists without going to the source? So you're saying it isn't the terrorists fault on 9-11, it's the US security? Also we have cranked up security, but a plane crashing into a building isn't the only form of terrorism. So we should sit back and let them kill us... then they'll like us, right? WRONG. What is it going to do except kill the terrorists? That's exactly what it's going to do. I'm acting like terrorists ACTUALLY flew their planes half way across the world and bombarded us with them. Wait if they didn't fly the plane into the building, then what DID they do. You have no logic and no common sense, what if you were on that plane or in the building. You would be dead. What would you want us to do? Just let them have their way?

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    Terrorists do not belong to any country and have no definitive characteristics, people of any race any color any age can be labeled terrorists, anyone in the entire world can be a terrorist. The US actually jailed terrorists in this country that were white. Now how exactly are you going to win a war in which any of the 6-7 billion people on the planet can potentially be your enemy, and by invading other countries you are pissing people off even more and giving them a higher chance of becoming "terrorists"?

    And now that we're actually in Iraq, and they are bombing us and shooting at us and we label that as "terrorism" when all they're doing is protecting their country from unwanted intruders.

    Because somehow a few hundred al qaida members are going to 1. come up with a few jumbo jets 2. fly it thousands of miles halfway around the world. and 3. take over one of the most powerful countries in the world and enslave or kill millions of people. or 4. after they invade the US they are going to start planting car bombs everywhere and blowing us up and the military isn't going to do anything about it.

    They sneaked through security briefs in airports and hijacked the planes, and with a failed response time from NORAD, were able to fly them to new york city. (this is assuming that there actually were terrorists involved). All you have to do is crank up security and no more planes are going to be hijacked.

    I wouldn't let myself be spoonfed by the media, that's for sure.

    There is no real danger, terrorists aren't going to take over the world, it is all made up in your head. It's because of people like you that we have blown over 500 billion on this war because if they actually stopped and thought about it rationally then they wouldn't have supported the war in the first place. But ooh no, soaked in what the media said like a sponge, lets go kill terrorists y'all.
     
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    i don't view them as heros, i don't know why we are paying a bunch of soldiers to cause more trouble, like dam prayer noobs said its just causing more terrorism and to "protecting our freedom" i don't see that small terrorist group coming and taking over america anytime soon
    i agree with everything dam prayer noobs is saying he has it spot on
     
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    Before you post again, why do you think these people want to kill foreigners?

    A cycle of violence is never a solution.
     
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