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Scammer's profile link: Snorlax | Sell & Trade Game Items | OSRS Gold | ELO (sythe.org)

Amount scammed: 105m

Discord ID + Unique Discord ID: Snorlax#7678 + 292804879859056643

Proof that it's their Discord:
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Discord_4KRKBu3Z2x.mp4 (dropbox.com)
Explanation of the trade: i would buy runewild tribridding ahk script for 105m 07


How they scammed:

Previously in the day i asked 2 of the top AHK script makers and both agreed BRID scripts do not work on runewild because anti ahk. (note the discord times on conversations between me and snorlax and the other AHK makers)

against my better judgement I paid snorlax the 105m for the script, with the belief if it didnt work he would refund me.

Right from the start the script wasnt working correctly and even though he repeatedly said it was user error he would send me revision after revision( why would you send me revisions if its user error, on top of that i know how to use ahk scripts and never had an issue)

this isnt about $50 CAD that i spent on the 105m its about morals and how he is trying to use bullshit Terms of service he has in his discord to scam me. the script didnt work, the revisions didnt work and he blames it on user error. hence his way to justify not refunding me.

here is the proof i believe is substantial, if you need more please let me know as this is my first report i have ever done.

here are pictures of the reputable script makers discord ids on their threads:
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here is videos of the discord IDs on discord and proof they said the scripts will not work to back up my claim of Snorlaxs script not being usable
AVANZA: Discord_nefz1rXxqm.mp4 (dropbox.com)
InjureGP and his ahk worker: Discord_zOOWdb9sht.mp4 (dropbox.com)

here is snorlax claiming its user error and then proceeding to say hell fix the script and send me revisions( that does not make sense to me)
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This one makes me laugh he even admits his script is bad (3rd line down)
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More screen shots of him trying to fix a problem he cant fix:
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Heres a screenshot of him again so confident in his scripts but yet sending me revisions with issues then blaming me for the error:

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Picture of all the revisions he sent me:
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at the end of the day, he has my 105m and I have 5 script revisions that will not work for me. I just want my money back.

 

Hello!


This is a nice and long one so lets begin


I want to preface that 2muchgames came to me looking for a RW script for bridding. I have made maybe around a dozen - two dozen before with ZERO complaints. It was always slightly suspicious to me that this guy led with "if it doesn't work I want a refund" despite my reassurances.


The first script I sent him worked and did 100% of what he wanted. This script equipt 4 items, went to prayer book, put on augury, went to mage book, clicked barrage, went to invy, and clicked on opponent in the span of roughly one tick.


This is an example of the script in action:

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As you can see it does everything stated above (which he wanted) in a very fast time span and never misses an item, prayer, or cast.



In response to other AHK sellers not making them, I don't want to assume but I don't think they know what to properly do and code for an RSPS. It requires different coding than a normal OSRS AHK which is likely why they say it “can’t be done” or “does not work”. Like I mentioned before, I have around two - three dozen TOTAL Scripts made for RW and Roatz (both say they have anti AHK) with ZERO issues from the customers who purchased them.


In response to me “fixing” the scripts let me note there was NEVER anything to “fix” in the first place. The buyer kept aggressively demanding for changes to the script to make it faster. Without going into deep detail, the reason my AHK works on these servers is that I make the clicks and timing more deliberate. This is obviously different from OSRS, which runs on a server hosted and created by a MASSIVE company, which translates to flawless and seamless clicks and switches. I told the customer this about 4-5 times but for whatever reason he continues to choose to ignore this fact. OSRS and RSPS servers are obviously different and because of such the AHK that is created needs to be tailored for that specific RSPS/client (which is what I did) and translates to click and switch patterns that are dissimilar from OSRS. Essentially this boils down to the customer purchasing a product that I stated was on a client that was different from OSRS and hence would be different AHK wise as well, and he was unhappy with the fact that RSPS and OSRS have different engines and I cannot magically morph AHK to fit an engine that is unlike OSRS. I made many different scripts to try and remove excess delay times I added but like I mentioned, there is only so much that can be changed. Yes ONE of the scripts was absolute trash because I attempted to make everything “OSRS equivalent” and its simply not doable, nor was it promised to be doable. I openly said this as soon as I saw it too lol.


You can see above that what I created clearly works, especially for a script that was deemed “impossible” to create for a server with “anti-AHK”. This moron just wants his money back because he refuses to learn this tool I created for him. AHK does not magically morph into your PK style. It was never promised to do so. I was asked to create a key that completed an action and you can see I CLEARLY have done that. He wants his money back because he couldn't learn it in the hour between me making it and him belligerently verbally abusing me. Keep in mind during this time I made two other people scripts that worked flawlessly .


Here are just a few of the fun things he said to me, while also repeatedly threatening to break my ToS and send my script to OTHER sellers to decompile which is just beyond disgusting in my opinion.


Screenshot - b93b9d05453ed30cbf2a1f2bc1fb94c2 - Gyazo


Screenshot - 6cb15905c705c3e94e7e1d8bedc86a95 - Gyazo Screenshot - 6c4f4a9d332ff0741a45a8ad733c0b9c - Gyazo - this was about 20 mins from the script where I told him nicely to test it and tell me if there were issues. I said multiple times I’d look after I helped the two people ahead of him. He thinks his god complex gives him the authority to be higher and mightier than my other customers and he didn't like that reality check.


Screenshot - 49ed15a4b619f25505f2e503e0b6522f - Gyazo Screenshot - 32f9bde2aff30690f262b5673e937aa4 - Gyazo - more complaining while I nicely offer to “fix” it (nothing is actually wrong with it anyways) I dont know how many times I need to say I will look at it for it to register in this dudes mind.


Screenshot - 02a27f810c96c73af75131dfb913c953 - Gyazo - him still angry that the server he wants this for is not like OSRS.. You can see above it works well and does EXACTLY what hes asked of me


Screenshot - 2492ad5faa1b27631111a9478f6a2a74 - Gyazo - this shows he still lacks the understanding that the game engines are different. Scripts obviously work better on games made by multi million dollars companies. Shocker. You cannot compare apples and oranges here. Both work, in their own ways, for their own games. He refuses to learn it.


Screenshot - 3ffa4c70651584a1092d1820b56716e3 - Gyazo Screenshot - 5c62d9f0058746820fbaa5352944aead - Gyazo

Screenshot - b95674507f29f8deb1fc329df39cf607 - Gyazo - more and more flaming. Never said anything bad to him. Openly told him many times why OSRS and RSPS are different. Still does not take that into account or understand.



The script clearly works. He refuses to learn its mechanics well enough. I will not refund (unless a mod obviously says to) because I did nothing wrong. I offered a working script, I offered help, I offered my time. He wanted a refund upfront before he even bought it.

 

just to prove hes lying, i asked him to make a brid script to show me it worked before i purchased it, he wouldnt. i also didnt ask for a refund before i even got the script i literally asked you what would happen if it didnt work and i expressed my concerns that other top AHK makers said brid scripts specifically would not work on runewild and you even admit the last brid script you made was "weeks ago". Before you openingly bashed their skillset, even tho i have purchased multiple other scripts from them WITHOUT problem.

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Again you consistently asked me to try it on a dummy, when it was in pvp and there was any movement at all you’re script was not registering correctly and constantly making me Misclick and dragging my mouse so I could never track the opponent, regardless of different engines it’s your responsibility to either figure out how to make the script work properly for said engine or not take the sale because you can not make a proper script. I had to pre load my cursor 3 tiles away from the target because your script was so buggy and would not register when I hit the hotkey.

You’re a scammer and won’t admit you cannot code brid scripts for that server, and I’ll have proof of a mod of runewild saying that they do have anti ahk in place for the server.

not only did you just post a video of the dummy portion you literally had a 10 second clip of the actual bridding with a ags gmaul portion of the script, which other ahk makers said were functional on the server, again BRID scripts do not work, everytime I was in pvp it was pure luck that my mouse actually landed on the player while he was moving, because your script was delayed, I said I don’t give a shit about your TOS because your TOS is your way to scam people when your script doesn’t function, and that yes I would get someone to decompile it to prove it’s garbage, whether you would refund or not. I don’t care about $50 CAD, I care that your scamming and comparing functional high risk single switch scripts on non moving players, where I’m rebutting the fact that your BRID scripts do not work and have many inconsistencies.

i also want to point out hes claiming hes the only one that can make working Brid scripts for runewild, i personally dont write AHK but i believe any top AHK script writer would agree(and obviously stated) that when you know what you're doing the only thing that would stop you from being able to properly make a script would be what the private server has in place to combat AHKers
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I’m the only person who lost here, I have 5 unusable scripts and you have 105m 07.

 

I also want to request a mod to make snorlax post full fights with moving targets using the script he sent me.

 

I'll say one final thing to serve not only as a bump but to further explain the cash grab motives behind 2muchgames.

He wanted to show him a brid script for RW before he purchased, which I said no to as I don't have any RSPS downloaded and don't intend on downloading.

He notes that other AHK sellers say its not possible and that the server is anti AHK. It is clearly not. Look at my examples of the script that is literally him using on his computer. They clearly work.

All of the people who have privately messaged me about this issue (thank you for sharing your opinions!) all have said the EXACT same things as me. It is clearly a scam to take what is rightfully mine when he has the exact tool he bought. These same people have preemptively banned this guy from their server because it is clear he is looking for problems when there are none to be found.

As for the AGS Gmaul side of things. Yes the AGS Gmaul worked. just like the other keys you wanted. It all works. And this ags gmaul is essentially the same swap as a range one. Cape/Ags/Potion Sip - Prayer Swap - Spec - invy interface. It does EVEN MORE actions than the other keys so its not as simple as "Ags to gmaul works" because based on these other opinions they were not talking about anything more than ags spec gmaul spec.

You can clearly see there are NO inconsistencies to be found. Every swap did exactly what you wanted. Stop grasping at straws and wasting my time and the mods time. And yes, I am the only one (that I know of) with working RSPS scripts as the others that gave you opinions told you they were not able to.

You have 4 usable scripts. You refuse to admit that.

 

buddy your only income is selling ahk scripts, I’m not hurting for $50, your scripts are dog shit.

anyone can make a script where it clicks items but it doesn’t mean it does it at the proper speed or timing.

stop acting like you’re some god ahk scripter, I’ve bought multiple RSPS scripts off of injure, on various servers, including runewild, when I asked him about the brid scripts it was a no go.

You are spewing out pointless bullshit to try and make yourself seem smart/respected. Saying I’m banned from various discord servers because I reported you, I have done thousands of dollars worth of trades on here and never had a problem, you’re my first report. When I do business and the business is done correctly I vouch.

again you make no sense, you say I have 4 usable scripts when I bought one off you, you sent me 5 revisions, ones that you admit were bad. Get your story straight and stop acting like you’re the most respected person on sythe.

 

Are you just naturally a liar?

This is the proper speed and timing for RW. Its very clear from the videos I grabbed from the day I made the script that it does 100% of what you asked.

The 4 versions you keep referring to all work. They are different versions of the same script that worked in the first place. I happily edit scripts for my customers as you can see from all the screenshots above. It is one script. Each file has slight variations from what you requested. Each time it worked. (Given the exception of one script which I told you BEFORE I sent that it likely wouldn’t work and seconds after seeing it I laughed at how bad it was {the osrs equivalent version that’s not possible})

Yes I have had many servers owners let me know they preemptively banned you because there is objective proof from how you choose to handle yourself and talk to others that you are awful to deal with. You are clearly belligerent and hot headed, and myself, along with others who have PMed me about this, also believe it is a clear cash grab and who would ever want to handle that?

The majority of your deals are buying GP which is about a 5 sec transaction where I know you always sent first.

"Your my first report" - I clicked once on "threads by you" and found TWO other active reports in the first page alone. I don't know if your memory is shot but it is clear you are lying about that as well. Also if you vouch when you do business correctly where are all the vouches for your other "multiple" AHK scripts you have bought?

These things are minuscule overall but I think further prove my narrative of you being a liar.

Learn the tool you paid for.

 

stop spamming the thread with your pointless bullshit lol, how do I have 4 revisions that work if you say the first one worked flawlessly? The first one you sent me was undertimed, the next 4 you sent me switched too fast to the point where 2 out of 4 items wouldn’t register.

how about making a tool that actually works kid.

 

All I ask is he show proof in actual pvp and not on a dummy, anyone can make a script that clicks said items but actually having the proper timing for it to work in pvp is a different story and that’s the problem here.

 

@Pirate Thank you for taking a look!

I’m more than happy to download RW and show it there. In regards to showing it working, do the two links on my first post not do just that? Even more so it shows it on HIS computer.

Like I said I’m happy to show it on my end but I’m just confused as to how the clips provided don’t do that already.

thank you again for taking a look!

 

again SHOW IT IN PVP NOT ON A DUMMY.

 

i also wanted to mention another issue with the script that I think he didnt add intentionally because of an anti ahk delay, it’s common practise for ahk developers to add a Send, {INVENTORY_HOTKEY}, so the user does not have to switch back to the inventory every time he wants to switch, again this affects the functionality and I believe if he did add this feature it would break his undertimed script even more.

 

You never said you wanted that. I made EXACTLY what you told me you wanted. I can show PMs if need be.

Here is the script in use in fights on RW. I'm not an NHer so my goal was to show the functionality of each key in different types of fights.

This is the exact same script sold above, just edited for my computer. It clearly works.

Script in Action

 

it literally goes without saying that it would obviously switch to the inventory whenever I wanted to switch, I have never seen an ahk script not do that.

Everyone single vid you posted clearly shows that your script is losing ticks, he literally ranges you twice before you even get a barrage off. AGAIN UNDERTIMED.

as I stated before anyone can make a script to click, your timing is extremely off.

 

@Pirate if you look how the players he is fighting interacting and how their ticks are performing, even the people around him fighting. his script is extremely slow and not inline with the server. Hes saying that I should ask for it to switch to inventory but if you investigative work and ask any AHK developer it’s the norm for them to do this. Why would I buy a script where I would have to manually go back to inventory to switch styles.

his videos show how shit his scripts are.

 

My intent, like I stated, was to show FUNCTIONALITY. I am NOT an NHer. I was showing:

1) What each key did
2) How it looked
3) that it does 100% of what it is supposed to.

I once again implore you to learn the tool you purchased.

 

Furthermore, this example of the AHK (on your computer) seems to clear up that the script can be tick perfect when someone who knows NH is using it.

PLEASE do not say "oh its just a dummy". You target is frozen for 15 seconds with a successful barrage so they are essentially a dummy.

Also please stop bringing up irrelevant things. Do not attempt to put me in a bad light when YOU did not for an inventory swap in the first place. You are trying to penalize me for making a script that fulfilled 100% of the request you gave to me. Also, you CLEARLY have no issues complaining so its interesting that this is the FIRST time you mention this and not within any of the discord messages prior, or in the original scam report.

 

I said to use it pvp for the game ticks to compare it with the other players, a dummy cannot attack you back obviously. You’re not an NHer but yet you know all about how nhing works? Classic.

you’re tool is shit and regardless If a mod does the research and finds that your AHK development is completely underwhelming compared to the rest of the script makers on this site, that Atleast how long this thread has been up that it tarnishes your reputation because you clearly are okay with selling trash.

I know how to NH, I bought a script from AVANZA after I made this thread and have absolutely no issues. I guess this is what being a venne ahk maker looks like.