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  1. Unread #1 - Jan 22, 2022 at 2:12 PM
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    [Denied] Have actual accounts and/or 'stock of accounts' put in threads

    Suggestion:

    Disallow the whole: please reach out via discord to see inventory/stock on threads with one general stat picture & at least have some sort of inventory/accounts being sold mentioned in the thread for the specific section.

    Sub-suggestion on this: tighten up on the 'one account proof' picture on threads. The picture should at least be an account up for sale or relevant in that section. For example, there shouldn't be a picture of a level 3 skiller as proof of an account in a main sub-forum.

    Why?
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    Keeps/ensures threads are being bumped/active for proper sections/accounts in stock as it would be presentable
    - Helps to 'clean-up' market/subforum to ensure only relevant threads are being bumped & helps the little guys who don't auto-bump/etc
    - Limits spam bumping/mass advertising
    - Also in a way helps the thread owner/person as I don't think people want to jump through hoops to find out if they are selling a specific type of account
    - Helps to somewhat combat the whole pulling from Sythe forums to a discord server type approach.

    On a majority of these threads in OSRS account sections it seems that they aren't even selling those type of accounts (or even have an area where accounts are sold in discord) that correspond to the section that they are in. Almost like it's a way to just mass advertise to get people to get in the discord & utilize/purchase other things for sale/offered in the server.

    I'm sure this was phrased poorly & could have been worded differently but let me know some thoughts/comments/concerns.
     
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  3. Unread #2 - Jan 22, 2022 at 3:12 PM
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    [Denied] Have actual accounts and/or 'stock of accounts' put in threads

    As a recent buyer, I fully support this.

    So many threads are just trying to link you to a discord that doesn't even have the account they're claiming anymore.

    Really irritating.
     
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  5. Unread #3 - Jan 22, 2022 at 3:41 PM
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    [Denied] Have actual accounts and/or 'stock of accounts' put in threads

    yeah I have always tried my best to keep my threads up to date (there was only 1 occupation were I forgot to remove account from it but had similar one so it wasn't an issue) , it rather annoying others don't, support
     
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  7. Unread #4 - Jan 22, 2022 at 3:47 PM
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    pretty sure its already a rule to post at least 1 picture of an account that fits the section? but yeah I've seen this a lot and it looks annoying, sometimes an account on my thread goes out of stock for 2-3days and I feel bad about that lol
     
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  9. Unread #5 - Jan 22, 2022 at 4:17 PM
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    [Denied] Have actual accounts and/or 'stock of accounts' put in threads

    Yeah I get things like this can happen & it's even happened to me before. On your specific point with the one picture it's almost like a couple threads I saw were using a generic picture & then said reach out on discord. In the discord server there wasn't even an area that I could find on accounts listed/up for sale. I feel like there's a point we're at now where people are just using the subsections almost as an advertisement just for their discord and hoping people stick around to look at other things (such as clicking from a ironman thread and just hoping they stick around to order an infernal/etc).
     
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    I've thought about this suggestion and how it could be properly implemented. I don't think you can disallow people from having more accounts for sale off-site (i.e. I list 5 accounts on Sythe but have 10 in my Discord).
    But what we could do is obligate sellers to list the amount of accounts they claim they have for sale. So if I advertise ''Zora's account shop - 20+ accounts for sale'' then I HAVE TO post all 20 accounts on that thread.
     
  13. Unread #7 - Jan 23, 2022 at 9:21 AM
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    [Denied] Have actual accounts and/or 'stock of accounts' put in threads

    Yeah this is definitely tough but I do feel like there shouldn't be scenarios like this:
    - Click a thread because you are interested in a 'specific account'
    - This thread has a general image of an account & that bottom & links to a discord server
    - You click the discord server, only this is a discord server of skilling/other things - you'll have to click on the account server to go to the account server
    - You then have to look at this acc

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    - Click a thread interested in a 'specific account'
    - Thread has accounts listed & again the thread starter is wanting you to go into a discord server
    - The discord server has no place at all for account sales to start a ticket

    At some point there should be a stoppage point where they are selling active accounts or at least make it known. Seems to just be a work-around for free advertisement in every sub section.
     
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    I support this suggestion because it’s false advertising and manipulation.

    I’m glad some big account sellers are supporting this suggestion. With that said… I don’t know how you would go about the implementation.
     
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    [Denied] Have actual accounts and/or 'stock of accounts' put in threads

    Trustworthiness is completely subjective, and there are many different ways to build the perception of trust. One of these ways is through post count.

    I've always had an issue with people post-count farming by creating WTB/WTS threads in every market subsection and bumping six times a day, even when they don't have anything to sell / are restocking.

    I think this suggestion can potentially kill several birds with one stone. Support.
     
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  19. Unread #10 - Jan 23, 2022 at 11:15 AM
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    [Denied] Have actual accounts and/or 'stock of accounts' put in threads

    This + enforcing this is going to require mods to check every discord of every provider and compare it to threads. Way too much work, while what is gained is very little (on the comparative)
     
  21. Unread #11 - Jan 23, 2022 at 1:19 PM
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    [Denied] Have actual accounts and/or 'stock of accounts' put in threads

    That's not necessarily true. There is an entire forum section for user enforcement: Report A Violation

    Ironically, I just checked and there is a violation report for this very thing.
    Limiq/BoostedMMO - bumping accounts with no accounts for sale
     
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  23. Unread #12 - Jan 23, 2022 at 1:21 PM
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    That's because I've started to notice numerous people doing the same thing so trying to shed some light on it.

    Also people who have threads linked to their main server (which is basically a hub for infernals, questing, training, etc).. but then you have to go and jump into another 'account' server to see the actual account stock.

    Getting a bit wild
     
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    The second scenario falls under false advertising and I encourage everyone to report these threads as they should get locked.

    I also agree that the first scenario shouldn't occur. A rule could be added that if a seller links their website/discord on their thread (like you mentioned, join site/discord to see more about the acc) then this website/discord MUST have more information about this account.
     
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    An argument pro is:

    right now, people can bypass Sythe-thread formal rules (rule to specify if there are bans on account/show photos of stats, etc.) by referring to their discord shops.
     
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    Agree. People shouldn't post threads if they don't have the account built up.
     
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    I know this is a bit of an older thread, but I fully support this as well. As a frequent buyer of low level fun throwaway accounts, it's extremely frustrating to have to join 5+ Discord servers to find your preferred account build, only to be told "It's not in stock, but we can custom order."
     
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    Support on this, I actually spoke to someone last night not mentioning any names

    I am not going out of my way to make threads although I have accounts being made currently, simply because I do not have the stock. Imagine if I made gold threads advertising gold, even if it's via dropship simple because I CAN and NOT because I have the stock - This is literally the definition of mugging people off

    You're advertising something you don't have, which is false advertising, and if I recall there was a discussion of being able to report threads who do this

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    Imagine this though lmao... 10 people advertising the same product but have no stock or intention of stocking asap
     
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    Unfortunately its not just account sales where this is happening. There needs/should be action taken against these sellers, possibly by locking their ability to use auto bumpers maybe?
     
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    Their posts should get reported for false advertising. At first only an infraction is warranted, but punishment may get harsher for repeated offenses.

    I rarely see any of these threads getting reported, so once I again I encourage everyone who encounters this issue to report it and we'll happily handle it from there.
     
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    This is exactly why you haven't seen me bumping all over the place. My stock is minimal at this time, so I'm not pushing "potential" sales. When I have the stock to accommodate, I'll begin bumping; when I'm out, I'll stop bumping.

    Can't imagine this is such a hard concept for people to grasp. They're basically looking for free traffic into their servers. Sadge..
     
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