The Existence of God

I Belive There Is A god in the after Life.

 

You're trying too hard. See my post in context before you imply that I see it as fact.

 

It's widely accepted by theists, so it's certainly acceptable that we use it against them.

 

Catholics have shit on christianity, and made it contradict itself.

 

I think the Bible is responsible for the contradictions, not the Catholic Church.

 

I like you.

 

God Exist? Impossible.

 

Not impossible.

 

According to my beliefs as an Orthodox Christian, you can only say yes or no. You can't be sure if there's a god, you have to believe in him. I believe there is Jesus. The god is the father, the son, and the holy spirit. I am strongly religious and believe in god. Everything I do everyday is based on my religion. Prey before eating, pray in the morning, the evening, and go to church every Sunday. That is my ordinary life.

 

Of course, it's only yes or no, and religion is based upon faith, but where would the Something For All be with going into a debate with this kind of view?

Besides, not many are doubting the fact that Jesus did in fact exist. It's more or less questioning whether he performed miracles, etc. Your religion says that everyone is a son or daughter of God, so saying that Jesus is the "Son of God" isn't a debatable topic. However, whether or not he was serious, delusional, deranged, a miracle worker, or just fame-hungry is an extremely large discussion.

 

God is not a man he is god. There is no time for god, god has no time. We are meant to understand time, there is no time for god. It's hard to explain and understand the concept of it. God can't see or know time because he created it. There is no time for god. The thing is that god was there forever. It's out of out minds of what forever is because we think based on time. There was no time period when god lived. God lived forever. There's not even a word to describe since when god lived because he was there forever. I don't exactly how to explain it. God is not a man though. He is the father, the son, and the holy spirit. Read the whole bible and you might understand everything.


My beliefs though not yours.

 

I like you too.

It's not impossible. This debate should not really be about a gods possibility/impossibility, but rather about it's probability. You can not prove or disprove the existence of a god, you can only decide how likely it is that one exists.

This forum is dedicated to not JUST stating your ideals, as you have, but defending them. Get active, debate! Convince us!

By the way everyone, I now have a blog on religion:

religiousexperimentation.blogspot.com

Feel free to follow, e-mail me questions, etc.

 

It's impossible to argue about that though. It's still your opinion and your religion.

 

If you want me to debate then I will.

1. Who created the world if there is no god? Big bang? No way that's just stupid. There's more proof of god existing than the big bang.
2. Biggest one! Who created humans, creatures, plants, life? Certainly couldn't be the big bang or whatever. Only someone amazing and holy could have created such amazing things.
3. Take a look at the saints and what they have done. There was a saint in the 1900s who did amazing things that could only bee holy.
4. Have you noticed the more you sin the dirtier your soul becomes. I mean the feeling of sinning. You do something horrible and get this horrible feeling that you just want to die and it feels like the devil is taking over you and your slowly dieing away form the world. Then you pray, go to confession, confess to god, and it feels like all of that has went away like your sins have bin cleansed.
5. I once was at church praying. There were birds chirping and cars screeching and making noises. Then the most holy and important part of the service came and everything went quiet like it wasn't even there.

Just things that happened to me and my opinions to support me.

 

I am somewhat confused by the wording of ^. So their was "chriping, etc."
and then the important part of the service came and everything went quiet as you said?
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Am I correct?

So,if there really was a God why wouldn't he make it quiet EVERYTIME you were praying?

 

Because he wants to leave things the way it is. The chirping and stuff are just natural, he wouldn't want to just mess it up for them or anything.

 

So you're saying concentration in prayer isn't necessary and that it means nothing to him?
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Also if he wanted to leave things the way they were then why did he stop the 'noises'?

 

This post is riddled with logical fallacies - I'm not even going to bother addressing all of them.

Read back a couple pages of the thread. You have posted nothing new.

 

What I said was basically opposite of what you said. I can already see 70% of the forum is full of idiots.

Not to be mean or anything but it's true.

 

So, what you're saying is, you believe in God out of ignorance? You're certainly using the argument from ignorance, that's for sure.

What you're saying is: "I don't know, therefore God must have done it!"
On the other hand, what rational non-believers say is: "I don't know, and I probably won't find out, so I'm not going give bias one way or the other, and simply live my life."

You seem to think The Big Bang Theory speculates on the origin of EVERYTHING. On the contrary, The Big Bang Theory theorises just after the beginning of the Universe AS WE KNOW IT, and it is backed by astrophysical evidence.

The simple truth is that we will never know how things began, and the answer is likely too complex for anyone on this Earth to understand, so I don't see the point in debating that. Taking in to account that this is a debate about God's existence, and considering how I've shown beginnings to be unimportant in such a debate, please get back on topic.

Argument ad Ignoratum: "I don't know therefore God did it!" You're also being irrational by dismissing a claim before you even take in to account any evidence. There is more evidence of The Big Bang Theory than God's existence, that's for sure.

Perhaps you should look in to biochemistry. There's an interesting report entitled "Primordial Soup" which hypothesises the origins of life in the Earth's prehistoric oceans. An experiment was conducted with a sample of 'water' containing the chemicals which were estimated to have been in the Earth's oceans at the time, and an electric current was passed through it (in the ocean it would have been something akin to a lightning strike). After a while, amino acids and proteins, the building blocks of life, began to form.

Again, you are using Argument ad Ignoratum: "I don't know therefore God did it!"

Are you going to elaborate?

Again, Argument ad Ignoratum.

This all comes down to the fact that "X is comforting does not imply X is true." To be more specific, "God being comforting does not imply God exists."

I, personally, do not feel this "dirt" of sin. I realise I have done some bad things, but I move on with my life. The only weight I feel is the consequences of my actions, and after I deal with them there are no repercussions. I'm sure most non-believers feel the same way.

This means absolutely nothing. It's the same as those moments where you say something really loud that you shouldn't, and everyone & everything suddenly becomes quiet out of a freak coincidence. In other words, this "point" is just a grasp in to thin air, to put it metaphorically.