The Existence of God

Shall I explain to you the concept of the human ego and how that impacts on one's personal pre-existing belief when they haven't seen (or noticed the lack of) evidence before?

 

how can't use except there is a creator? when you look at a car for example, you look at it and wonder how much the car was, the model, etc. but when you look at the earth use can't think about the creator. Coinsidence is not a word, everything happens for a reason, how would everything coiensidently come in order? Everything is done with perfection, thats not coiensidence.

 

First, I suggest you use Firefox, it has a built-in spellchecker.

Perfection? Our world isn't anywhere near perfect. I'm not even gonna supply examples, look out the window. And you're right, coinsidence is not a word. Coincidence is though, and a lot of things happen by chance. Why is a hidden reason so necessary for you to sleep at night?

 

I'm actually glad you challenged me on that, this is EXACTLY what defines you as a believer or a non-believer. It is the decision you make that in your mind the "god" you believe in is real, and that there is only one god, the god YOU believe in. You would not be considered a believer if you had misconceptions or doubts that made you think the god you believed in was not real. This shows how hard it is for people who don't believe in anything to try and understand what goes in the mind of believers.

Just don't associate belief with the lottery

 

Andromeda galaxy hitting us, a cooling universe, and large quantities of the universe aren't inhabitable... I truthfully hope this isn't perfection.

 

god is probably the stupidest thing i have ever heard of...
he was made up to explain the unexplainable just like any mythology

 

Instead of being deconstructive about a topic such as this, why don't you consider what you just said? On what terms have you gotten you evidence from to easily say god is not real and just some story said to explain nonsense?

After a 246 page topic what makes your response right compared to those who have come up with atleast an intelligent observation?

Give us concepts/theories to give your statement atleast some form of foundation you can go back on and something for those truely interested in the topic, a chance to reply with agreement or disagreement

 

Thought this would be relavant to everyone's interests.

No I do not believe in god, nor any god for that matter. If god existed why doesn't he make himself evident? BS

 

True, but then what do you call faith? It's believing in something you can't see and touch physically that makes a religion what it is. I'm sure if god came down and showed his trueself he would have everyone believing he is real, but if you have any background knowledge in Christianity, he is a god that gives you a choice to follow him or not.

That is the grace of his power, giving you a choice and not forcing you to believe in him. Those who do are said to recieve the highest honours when he descends from heaven. (day of judgment)

 

Why not? It's an accurate analogy.

Impossible to provide evidence for the non-existence of something, therefore it is the prerogative of the believer to provide evidence.

Believing without evidence is irrational.

The way I interpret it:

"Sure, you don't have to believe in me, but if you don't you'll be condemned for an eternity."

That isn't a choice, it's an ultimatum.

 

You do raise a good point with the analogy and I do admit fault for that, however belief without evidence is irrational? I guess this statement is true however is that not what we base religion on? You cannot assume every human on this plane. Is irrational because of their belief, that would be in a completely athirst point of view so why not
view it a believers point of view?

And the day of judgement is not meant as an ultimatum. There are numerous references from the bible saying that god is a merciful lord and it is possible for you to be saved at any moment from the devils scheme, so does that not make him a saviour? (I'm speaking in terms of what Christianity believes, please look at it in both perspectives)

I thank you for challenging the point in question as this is a critical
issue being talked about

 

Merciful lord? All you need to know about "God's mercy" is in the Bible.

My personal favorite is the Book of Exodus. I'm not gonna tell you the story, as I'm sure you know it. Is this how a merciful lord should behave?

 

True, however I don't speak of this stuff without prior knowledge of the bible itself, I've probably heard over 50 messages that can relate to gods mercy. It is true that gods wrath can be and is terrible (as seen with the 12 plagues, last of them being the angel of death).

But surely you can see that he is a merciful god? Look at how the people of this earth treated his only son, they killed him. But this is what the lord meant to do. Imagine if you can, having an infinite power, sending out your ONLY son who is perfect in deed and thought, to die for another ones sins.

If this does not display gods inscrutable display of mercy, I do not know what else I can say on the matter.

But I also agree with you, he can be a bad ass when he wants to be

 

He didn't give people a choice a few thousand years ago. The bible speaks of many miracles performed, he did come down to earth in the form of jesus. he was showboating turning water into wine, curing sick people, Hidden? hardly...

If you think god would never show himself due to taking ones faith, why did he do it before? how come if we paid for our sins, we are not living in the garden of eden? What exactly changed once we where forgiven? Why couldnt god just say, yeah im over it now, instead of this over drematic murdering of his son? oh i know why, because it sounds cool

 

This... is hardly true, on what evidence does he "showboat" to be given granted access to the gates of heaven you need to understand and fully believe that christ did die for our sins, getting into heaven isnt THAT easy, but god certainly gives us a fighting chance

 

i basically died and thought i saw god, im religeos now he is real god bless

 

I wish I knew the answer >.< But in the book of Revelations, when Christ ascends into heaven, he speaks of a second coming. I guess that is what all Christians are waiting for.

 

There is one theory I have been thinking about, in the Bible there are references to when God comes from heaven to collect his people, the dead will rise. So when this happens I think there will be no recollection of time, so when you do die, im thinking it will be like a waiting room, and while it could be millenniums and such, we would only register it as a few seconds maybe?

its a possibility

 

God loves everyone equally, he just tests people on different levels. Not everyone is the same, nor can they all be treated as the same.

And. Lol. at 666 "No"

 

But there is no proven fact that there is a god.