The Existence of God

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  1. Unread #4721 - Sep 5, 2009 at 11:48 AM
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    Yes there is a god.
     
  3. Unread #4722 - Sep 5, 2009 at 1:51 PM
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    False? dude,don't comment when you've no fact about islam and Q'uran.

    ''Have not those who disbelieved known that the heavens and the earth were one connected entity, then We separated them?..[Noble Quran 21:30]

    Professor Alfred Kroner is one of the world's well-known geologists. He is a Professor of the Department of Geosciences, University of Mainz, Mainz, Germany. He said, "Thinking where Muhammad came from .. I think it is almost impossible that he could have known about things like the common origin of the universe, because scientists have only found out within the last few years with very complicated and advance technological methods that this is the case." (From 'This is the Truth' [video]). Also he said, "Somebody who did not know something about nuclear physics fourteen hundred years ago could not, I think, be in a position to find out from his own mind, for instance, that the earth and the heavens had the same origin."
     
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    alll the evidence u have is usally ignored and they usually repeat flawed arguments :/ scroll up or go back a few pages.
    suprising (not to the vast majority that are reasonable)
    i used to debate with shredder he said i was using ignorance to my advantage now look whose using the ignorance >.<
     
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    How about everyone stops arguing and when you die, you'll see what happens. Thats the only way ANYONE ca ny really find out. As for me I am Christian, but I'm not gonna sit here and argue over the internet.
     
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    It's not that easy. If I'm right, there won't be any revelation after death, so why wait for it? That sad part is that you will never find out that you're wrong, and I won't find out that I'm right.:'(
     
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    were not arguing were debating nothing here can change wut i think of religion ( i believe in God) but i like to see the views of others..
     
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    Glad to see you're open minded.
     
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    I Do Because It Sounds More Reasonable Than Other Suggestions
     
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    IF there is a God:
    If you believe and you die, you gain everything (heaven)
    If you dont believe and you die, you lose everything (hell)

    IF there isnt a God:
    If you believe or dont believe and you die, you gain/lose nothing. (n/a)

    Just a thought. In my case I integrate this into my personal beliefs (Im christian), but an interesting point otherwise for other people's beliefs. :huh:
     
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    Pascal's Wager - look it up.

    This argument is a fallacy on so many levels. Basically, it says that either Christianity is right or atheism is right. What about the hundreds of other religions out there? What if one of those happen to be the right one, and you'll burn in Hell for all eternity for believing in the wrong one?

    Besides, you seem to be under the misconception that all you have to do is to blindly believe. You have to live the Christian life, you have to restrain from sinning. That means no touching your penis at night, no swearing, no lying, no cheating, no sexing until you're married, etcetera. You really gotta rethink your religious orientation.
     
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    I cracked up after reading this.

    Do you even know what solid evidence is?
     
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    Yes Pascal's Wager. I learned this a few years back, but I forgot what it was called. Thanks.

    Its a risk im willing to take for my faith. Ive gone through 11 years of a Christian school to date and through all Ive ever studied and learned from outside sources, testimonies, the Bible, and more, Id be willing to die believing that my faith is the truth. Yes I sound close-minded, but take note Ive also taken history classes where we've spent weeks learning religions like Islam, hinduism, buddhism, and even studied arguments from the atheism POV

    No sir. However, faith in Jesus will give you eternal life. Genuine Christians then have the desire to live a better life, to further integrate christian morals into their lives. Yes, people sin, people make mistakes. Why? Because no one is perfect, and EVERYONE makes mistakes (sin). Whether or not you choose for yourself to follow Islam, Atheism, agnosticism, is your choice. Before you blindly believe in something like you seem to think that I do, do some research. The reason that you might even think that im trying to sound that I blindly believe is probably because Im not trying to sound like an evangelical E-Preacher. This is not what I am trying to do. I try not to sound like a close-minded ignorant Christian, which seems to be a stereotype. Yes I believe, and judging from what I wrote in that post, How can you tell how i live my life?

    Yes this goes hand and hand with what I was saying before. A genuine relationship with God will help you to overcome temptations to do these things. Yes, people still sin, but thats apart of life. Nobody is perfect. However, with a foundation in God, we can try our best. God is loving and forgiving. Yes Christians are not supposed to act upon things such as lying, stealing and sex. But many of these were counteracted with the moral law given by God, not to be strict, but for our own protection. Stealing gets you in trouble, lying gets you in trouble, so why get wrapped up in things that will get you in trouble? Abstinence can also be a good prevention of contracting STDs and rid of abortion, etc. This argument was generalized for the sake of my own time. Whether I spend 5 minutes or 50 minutes typing out an argument, its not going to make much of a difference. All that occurs in this post is people throwing points and arguments at each other until they run out of things to say. This is merely a debate topic and to view other people's point of view (POV) on their religious beliefs.
     
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    I'm not sure there is a God since there is no proof of it and since humans are afraid of death since it would mean you just die and that is the end. So they could of just created a place people go to making death seem like a happier place and not like the end of everything.
     
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    Just to spark discussion, here a question for the Christians. Well, mainly, it applies to other religions as well.

    Do you believe in the Bible?

    That's a simple yes/no answer, but most Christians answer "some, but not all of it". In my opinion, you can either answer a definite "yes" and be a fanatic, or you can answer "some, not all" and thereby putting yourself above the Bible with the power to scrap anything in it that you don't like. Which are you?
     
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    I totally dont belive in god but if there is sorry :p
     
  31. Unread #4736 - Sep 8, 2009 at 1:32 AM
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    I think people believe in God because of what is said to happen if they do not. If there was said to be no "hell" or downside of the afterlife, I think it would be safe to say that the belief in a god would be redundant. My theory is that a notion of a god was created by slaveowners and such thousands of years ago to give their laborers something to look forward to; a reason to work hard and a reason to not turn on their owner. However, people that had the knowledge of a god's non-existance faded out and the remaining people were left with the idea that god was actually real. Another thing is the money. Similar scenario but with money. People told other people about God and whatever and recieved money through donations to churches. Something like that.

    Just my opininon and my reasons for not believing in God.
     
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    What about religions that don't believe in a downside to the afterlife? Why do they exist if a carrot/whip system is necessary?

    If not saying your opinion in essence is flawed, your just putting in a false generalization by saying that this is always the case.
     
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    Personally,
    I believe in God.
    Otherwise, we wouldn't be here.
    Big Bang Theory?
    No.
    Those fossils are from events such as Noah's Ark.
     
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    Do you have evidence to support your hypothesis?

    Before you say anything, there IS evidence to support the Big Bang theory. I'd also like to point out that the Big Bang theory doesn't theorize origin of everything, it theorizes about how the Universe came to be as it is currently. There's a big difference. There are many theories about origins, the Big Bang theory isn't the only point to argue.
     
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    Have you heard of carbon dating? Are you implying that dinosaurs existed in Noah's days?

    The ignorance is strong in this one...
     
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