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  1. Agile Life Services

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    Scammer's profile link: @steamcpl

    Vouches if they were exchanged: No vouches were exchanged after transaction

    Original selling thread: - No selling thing was created as far as I'm aware.

    Proof of payment: - Because of the personal information which would be displayed from this I'll be happy to provide it to a member of the Sythe staff team to verify.

    Proof of contacting seller: [​IMG]

    Discord ID + Unique Discord ID: hepaN - Discord (gyazo.com)

    Login username of the account: Because of the high value nature of the account login username will be provided in private discussion with staff for them to deem fit if the login should be displayed.

    Terms of Service that was agreed to: No Terms of service were agreed upon at the time of the sale of the account. The sale was done between @Bobbbbbb & @steamcpl

    Other relevant trade screenshots:

    @Bobbbbbb has requested that I make the sythe report on his behalf as he's not use to this sort of situation and has no experience or idea on what to post on write on this.

    Additionally to this, I helped negotiate the sale of the account between the two users so I know all that has happened.

    I've contacted @Andy on discord to inform of this situation and he requested I make a report.

    Myself and @Bobbbbbb are happy to provide all and any information or screenshots required to provide proof of this account being recovered and sold.

    Because the account in question is of high value and high nature any information regarding it will be provided privately because the account was sold for $3400 at the time and still holds a value of $2500+ because of the levels, items and more.

    I also have personally sold @steamcpl a high value account in which I'm happy to recover and provide as compensation. I also have a lot of personal information on @steamcpl which I'll provide to staff members that can do with as they please.

    If any staff member wishes to contact me to get additional information/screenshots and more please add me on: Agile Life#8486 Unique ID: 224857611458183168

    Thank you.
     
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    Hello, I am bobbbeee and if you would like confirmation please do not hesitate to contact me or agile.
     
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    @steamcpl care to explain?

    You've been DNT'd for now.
     
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    Hey, I was just added on Facebook and messaged about this by Agile Life.

    I don't know what's going on yet but just to give some more context, I wasn't the one who sold this account to bobbee, Agile was.

    I had control of this account and the original owner was someone other than me (Agile knew this, I can't say if bobbee knew since I wasn't in on the negotiations) and Agile Life sold this account and we split the money ($1400/$2000).

    The account was advertised on the Agile Life discord as an account being sold BY the discord and the negotiations and payment for the account didn't include me.

    I can add more info in the evening when I'm back, just came here to drop some info since I was just made aware of it via fb.

    Edit again: Also why I didn't have bobbee added was because yesterday Agile confronted me via discord about me airing his laundry (I'm the one who got him banned) with someone from another discord and we decided to stop talking to eachother so I removed everyone from that discord (imgur.com).

    Edit2: also I didn't remove anyone off of Discord until yesterday, and agile just told me the account was supposedly recovered 4 days ago
     
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    @steamcpl please provide some proof to back up your claims.
     
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    imgur.com

    I don't know what else to put? Most of it was discussed via voice chat.

    But anyone from the Agile discord including Bobbee should be able to confirm that the account was advertised and being sold by the server.

    None of the potential buyers or the actual buyer themselves knew that I was in control of the account until it was time to switch over the email. I was just paid my cut from Agile after the deal was done.

    Edit: The discord server also had 2 selling pages. 1 for staff and 1 for agile. This account was advertised under the "Agile life" accounts. Not even the staff accounts (I wasn't even staff anyway).

    Edit2: imgur.com
     
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    I'm happy to take responsibility if the account was really recovered, since I was actually involved, but I found it ironic that the person making this report is the one who actually sold the account and used their name to get the high price tag.

    Also wanted to point out that both of these people are upset with me. Agile for getting him banned and Bobbee for getting Agile banned (he told me I made a mistake and that Agile was innocent).
     
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    I looked into things a bit and there isn't really proof that the user sold the account.

    @steamcpl please return the account to @Bobbbbbb or issue him with a refund.
     
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    huh? I am confused, did anyone refute my claims? Can you please ask the actual victim, bobbee?

    Also why do you think Agile made $1400 off the deal if I was the one selling the account?

    Furthermore, how do I even know the account was recovered? As far as I know the user was selling this account (because it was a HCIM that died). How do I know they didn't just sell it to someone and now want it recovered?

    I'm really blown away right now since I can't see how there is any evidence that I sold the account.

    More proof, me talking to the 2nd in command on the server: imgur.com

    Edit: By the way I would have already sent in a recovery request by now, but I'm not the original owner (something I didn't hide). I do however trust the original owner and reached out to him on fb.
     
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    Hello @steamcpl,

    I've spoken to @Bobbbbbb, have examined the chat logs surrounding the account sale, and looked for evidence that they'd sold the account, which I didn't find.

    I'm aware that @Agile life also received a portion of the payment for the sale as well. You still bare responsibility for this sale as the account was yours, and In the event of a refund, both you and agile will need to refund your respective portions of the sale to @Bobbbbbb.

    Please keep me updated on the situation.
     
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    @Andy

    Alright, I will try to get the account recovered asap.

    But just for the record, can you confirm that @Bobbbbbb told you that Agile did NOT sell the account to him?

    It may not matter to you but it matters to me.

    Edit: Also regarding you speaking to @Bobbbbbb is it normal for the staff investigating a case to get information from the other side outside of the report ticket? It seems to me that if someone is giving you information it should be given here in the public forum so that I get the opportunity to refute anything they might say.
    I'm not saying this isn't normal but if it is, it feels a bit unfair.
     
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    The user did not make that specific statement to me, they just want either the account they purchased or their funds returned to them.

    The only claim they've made is that they don't have access to the account, they also refuted your claim that they'd sold it to someone else. Both of these points are public on the report.

    The chat logs surrounding the sale contain sensitive information from all involved parties and are in a deleted post that only staff can see in order to protect that sensitive information.

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    Have you had any luck getting the account back for @Bobbbbbb?
     
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    Just letting you know that i haven't heard from @steamcpl, have added him on discord ect
     
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    Due to the nature of this account sale both @Agile life and @steamcpl share responsibility for it. It will need to be fully refunded before either of them can return to Sythe.

    User has been online and failed to respond, so I'm going to issue @steamcpl a ban for scamming.

    @Bobbbbbb sorry for your loss.

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    Andy edit: [Removed, user repaid]
     
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    Happy to say that this has been fully repaid.

    @steamcpl will still need to Request a Pardon should they wish to return to Sythe though.

    Staff see the deleted post above for additional context.
     
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