Spam report team

I suggest a small team of active members that are chosen by globals/admins to help clean up the spam report forum (43 threads) and warn/infract rule breakers.

A few rules for these "mini-mods" could be:
1. Only infract/warn members that were reported, so that real moderators can check up if they want.
2. Infract/warn by the rules, of course.
3. Don't break rules yourself.

Also, these spam report mods can be very limited in power (and should be) and only able to infract/warn and move threads in the spam report forum to the spam report archive, nothing else. A new rank for them isn't needed but would be a nice way to express gratitude.

I guess it'd be a little work to put together and get up and running but I am willing to bet that the work would pay off. Even just a few new faces working to help the community as a whole would be a tremendous benefit to everyone.

I would appreciate it if any members or staff post their thoughts on this suggestion.

 

Erm, the thing about that is, us mods usually handle them.

Also: http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=183249 The number one thing to not suggest is new ranks.

 

Yes, that is actually a great suggestion IMO. Like, maybe a rank like a donator rank, only it says something like "Spam Reporter" or "Spam Report Mod", with a can of spam in the middle. I'm being completely serious.

It would sure be a good way to clean up a lot of the spam reports, and I know it isn't suggested, but using this to clean up the Report a Scammer section wouldn't work. Banning people should only be the responsibility of Mods and Admins.

 

Then why is there over 40 pages? I see that a lot of the times mods try, but there just aren't enough mods on it.

I don't really consider it a new rank. =/ The rank (thing that is by your name) is optional.

A new rank isn't the point here.. =/ The picture doesn't matter. The aim of this suggestion is to help the community.

Ty.
And yeah, that's why I suggested the new minimods be VERY limited on power. Even temp banning should be out of the question for them. They would have to consult a real mod for this.

 

I personally PMed Sythe about RaS Sectionals, and he said he'd think about it.
That was probably a month ago.


EDIT: They should also be able to give like.. one week temp. bans, for excessive spam and such.

 

Then maybe now he would consider it, since the idea has been suggested a few times.

 

I'm not so sure, I'd love for it to be implemented.


But it's been suggested a lotttt. Even by mods.

 

Yes but the amount of spam reported seems like its overwhelming for mods to handle. A small team jsut for that would hurt, no new ranks need to be added.

 

No. The number one thing is to not request a rank.

 

I really like the idea but I think it's too much power for normal members.

I mean, handling spammer reports is pretty much deciding the fate of members. Infractions and whatnot all add up and it's a really big responsibility. Someone who does this would have to have immensely good senses of right and wrong, very well governed ethics, great knowledge of Sythe's rules and regulations, the ability not to give into emotions, and most of all: to be unbiased.

Let's also not forget the purpose of having moderators: To deal with situations, answer spam reports, etc. This is a big aspect of a mod's job and I feel it will take away a lot of the motivation normal members have on becoming a real moderator. (I.E: It defeats the purpose of some mods jobs)

I do agree the spammer section has been spiraling out of control and recommend for action. This is a good step in the right direction but might be too far.

 

Yes but it seems mods have not looked in the spam section. Or theres too little for them to manage the spam section. Mods can be biased too, your argument saying the negatives arent logical. They were normal members too but their respect, trust, and friendship got them there.

They can easily choose those who volunteer and have high respect and trust...

 

No...

 

Some of them have answered reports while others haven't, we know. Yeah but which of them actually did spammer reports before coming into staff? This particular job is a HUGE responsibility for normal members, especially now (40 PAGES). It's never been that big (in my experiences) and usually, they would have taken care of it. It's best if the person that's answering reports is NOT biased because it wouldn't be fair to someone else. Look, if this is passed, they'd look for the best people who are the cream of the crop in qualifications. They aren't moderators, it's important they don't make mistakes and answering reports with bias is a HUGE error. It's not fair if you give your friend a warning while someone who did the same thing is given a infraction.

 

It would be a good thing, but it's been repeatedly suggested and denied.

 

From how I gather it, it's like this:

People who've been mods for a while don't care about the spam reports. It's not a requirement that they do them, so they have no motivation. If they need a few mod logs for the month, they'll drop in there, do a bunch of quick reports, and be good to go.

People who've been mods only for a short while are usually more prone to doing spam reports as they're 'wanting to impress' people with their new position. It will fade eventually, and result in them just not caring enough to do it.

Having a position like this is pointless, as all you have to do is tell mods they need to answer at least 10 spam reports a month. That is simple, easy, and it benefits them because they get to keep their rank.

Sure, a mod isn't required to blah blah blah, we do this on our own blah blah blah. Point is, you wouldn't have rank if you didn't do something. So simply ask the mods to all pitch in on a small scale, and shit will get done >.>.


You don't need a new team of 'quick mods' to start dealing with random reports.

 

Most of this is true, if all the RaS sectionals and Globals all did 2 pages which takes about 20 minutes then all of them would be done but it seems that very few globals seem to do RaS anymore as I look in the archives. However the need for quick-mods are pointless. Also as a side-note this is the highest I've ever seen it get.

 

2 pages takes me hours because my internet is so damned slow most of the time... >_>.

 

The real problem is that the 42 pages of spam reports that we have now were generated in the last two weeks. That's nearly 840 reports, an average of 60 per day. (More than that, even, since mods generally do the most recent reports first)

People report over the smallest little things, due to petty grudges with another user, to get their own post counts up, because they think it will help their chances at mod, etc.

The problem isn't the number of reports our mods answer. It's the amount that people whine over every little post. I think what we really need is to re-introduce limitations on reports, and make that forum only for the more severe rule violations.

 

Its the spam in the site. You can easily not count the spam reports as post count.

There maybe be a few idiots believing reporting mass amounts of spam can help them or get post count up but the majority of the reported spam...is spam

 

Or maybe a rule to not abuse the system >.>. Maybe a better form, with a higher organization in the section, such as a select menu where people choose the reason for reporting a post, rather than typing out their reason, and every option comes with the equivalent rule, and a brief explanation of what should be reported, and what should not...


I'll write up a brief example and it can be suggested if liked >.>..