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  1. Unread #21 - May 3, 2021 at 9:40 AM
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    At this time Primal was posting on facebook trying to defend himself from someone else accusing him as a scammer, so clearly was dealing with that rather then paying out. This person accusing had no involvement with the situation. Even says "His 7 days finished today, I just got of work personally, can't expect people to sit around waiting 24/7 to handle a single request from a single person" but can be there to send all these messages and screenshots instead of paying meepboop out.

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  3. Unread #22 - May 3, 2021 at 9:42 AM
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    You do realize if he would've just been more patient he would have gotten the 500m? then he threatened to ddos me (stating he has my ip)

    I was only being nice offering him the refund which he clearly didn't care about since he blocked me.
     
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    You said not to "in case gold spikes" so I don't see how that's offering, also backs up the "stalling" argument
     
  7. Unread #24 - May 3, 2021 at 9:57 AM
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    We agreed to do it on the 28th, what do you mean by stalling?
    He was impatient, end of story.
     
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    So you get a Bil payday because someone is impatient and said they have your IP even 500m is a nice payout, I think it's more then fair that he gets the 500m returned. Especially with gold tanking as much as it has.
     
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    Well he blocked me on discord, and threatened primal so i don't see why he should be refunded anything? what would you do yourself if you were threatened?
     
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    I don't let issues get out of hand like this, and if I have a debt, I pay it promptly, I don't make people wait out of spite, because this will happen, welcome to the market. Primal knows how to get in contact if he had any good faith, mods on Facebook offered to collect as well.
     
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    I haven't had any contact with either of you through facebook, also why did he block me?
     
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    Primal has, and I generally block people who 1, have scammed 2, I do not care for 3, do bad buisness or have 0 Intention of doing buisness with them.
    But I hate to see this kinds of stuff happen in the market, and nothing gets done cause 90%+ of the time, it continues til its big enough for an exit scam. Why I made this report on my own time, purely to do the next right thing for someone I see getting taken advantage of. Was what he did right? No. Was the ban justified? Yes, was it right to keep his deposit? No, he should be paid out and end the agreement, keep each other blocked and move on. If the deposit was kept for a payout to a customer of some sort, for a ban/refund or missing items, I'd get that, but to put in your pockets is just greed.
     
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    Not putting it into my own pocket as i'm taking a break from everything currently, speak to primal regarding the deposit as hes holding it.
     
  21. Unread #31 - May 3, 2021 at 10:34 AM
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    He's clearly refused, and why this post was made.
     
  23. Unread #32 - May 3, 2021 at 11:31 AM
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    A few points from my side:

    1: there was no right on a refund According to TOS - the 50% was a mere gesture of goodwill from our side.

    2: your post about the scam accusations was made BEFORE meepboop had contacted me. Rendering any form of goodwill obsolete.

    3: the TOS clearly state "no sooner than 7 days" this means, after at least 168 hours have elapsed. It does not say "after exactly 168 hours"
    A genuine asking to wait a moment, is not ruling against any part of TOS or agreements.
    Again, emphasis on the fact that according to TOS there was no right to refund.
    But rather than dropping a message to me, to arrange a time / location to meet, we got dox threats, physical threats and public name damage.

    The damage caused by Meepboop, and following also by you, are already highly outgrowing 500M, since you have been publicly posing me(Primalrs.com) as scammers, without grounds. Contacting people all around, banning / reporting / public shaming us wherever you had the chance.


    This, infact is a clear violation of sythe rules.

    You of course, had the full right to send out this very report, with all statements attached, yet posing us as scammers without any grounds is a clear violation.

    Also - thanks for leaking my irl data earlier - the links are visible in the email coming from a watched post.
     
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    After reading through this and discussing it with a few other staff members we have come to the agreement that @Cutter and @TheOnePrimal are not within their rights to withhold the deposit here based on their ToS.

    This is due to the fact that @danieldon did reasonably inform about his services business being created, within 24 hours of the server going live. While the user did outsource here without permission, which is a TWCable offense on our site, it is not stipulated in the ToS as a reason for the deposit being forfeit either.

    @TheOnePrimal/@Cutter please get in contact with @danieldon and return their deposit as originally stipulated. Let me know once this has been done.
     
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    Deposit is being arranged right now.
    To follow up on my post above:

    Offences by mikeyfarmz123:

    Public name shaming
    Leaking my private data
    The email received shows 2 screenshots clearly showing my name.
    Which might have been edited out later but still has been visible to public


    Specific to meepboop, there's the following:

    Outsourcing work without notification
    Physical threats (see report)
    Negative advertising
    DM advertising customers
    DM advertising in general
    False accusations on multiple cases.


    We would've preferd a notification before opening and advertising things.
    Since he, after getting a clear "don't advertise yourself" still went ahead and started dm advertising multiple customers, and numerous other people.

    I believe, this explains our reaction on the whole situation.
     
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  31. Unread #36 - May 3, 2021 at 2:48 PM
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    @TheOnePrimal the sensitive information was required due to the nature of this report, it has all been removed from public view. @danieldon will remain banned/DNT'd and will need to Request a Pardon should they wish to return to Sythe.

    @Cutter has delivered the refund for the deposit, which I watched them do via screenshare.

    The other aspect to this report pertains to a gold delivery, a Facebook user claims they delivered gold to @Cutter/@TheOnePrimal and the latter claims they never received it. There isn't enough proof one way or the other so @Cutter/@TheOnePrimal will not be held liable.

    This is resolved.
     
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