The Existence of God

If ever you've seen, "In the beginning, there was nothing." referring to any theory, disregard it, now. Different theories are being challenged, even to this day, but until they're defeated, how can you believe something that says that?

Unless it's simple faith, in which case, debating it would be futile.

 

I can believe in it because it hasn't been proven otherwise, simple as that. And I never said I believed in the theory that says "In the beginning, there as nothing", I'm simply bringing up a point.

I don't understand your last sentence? What is simple faith, what is regular faith...?

 

Lol.
You didn't understand anything I wrote.

Not believing in your religion, ect. You said "in terms of the BBT, how nothing can become something."
What I meant by my second sentence was that this shouldn't even be a point in your post. If ever you see that 'Nothing became something', disregard it.

The "theory" that I was talking about was the, "Matter is neither created nor destroyed." Until that theory is defeated, things like "Nothing became something", shouldn't even begin to be considered plausible.

Uhm, simple faith and regular faith are the same thing. You brought the term "regular faith" into the conversation, and mixed yourself up.

Faith in something without evidence, validity, ect. Referring to something like, "I realize that there's no proof in a God, but I believe, anyway. It's just faith."

When someone has a standpoint like that, debating the topic would be futile.

 

i believe in god because i dont know any other solution to the way life was created

 

i believe in god because i dont know any other solution to the way life was created

 

all you nerds think you are so smart and claiming evidence this and evidence that. Lmfao. Their is no evidence or proof how the world is created. Think about biology people life is so advanced and complex even think about the way humans function. Their is no way possible that this exact universe came from nothing and randomly everything just happened like this. If you beleive this shit you are fucking lost. Their has to be a God even if you think about it logically. Also atheists think about death if their is no God what happens to you after death? I already know what you are going to say after death atheists believe you become non-existant. If this where true life would be completely pointless. So if their are 2 options you can beleive in why would you not choose God? I want a legitimate reason. Because if you beleive you are going to be non existant why take the chance of being wrong? Lets say you listen to me and choose to become a christian. And it was all a lie.

 

what would be the outcome? nothing because you are non existant therefore your choice makes no difference. so why take the chance? Lets say that i am correct and their is a God and everything is how it is said in the bible. Atheists would be fucked. so i give you one question that neees to be answered. Logically, why take the chance?

 

You obviously no nothing about science, and/or the many theories of the creation and existence of life, too brain-washed to look up from the bible that your parents gave you, which is really the only reason you even believe in what you believe in now.

I mean, I could be crazy, but maybe I'm not.

If you DID know anything about it, you'd know that not many people here think that existence came from "nothing". Learn your theories, and then post.

Even in the very religions, the Bible was never meant to be taken literally. Atheist or not, that's a concrete fact. Considering how you're basing your entire logic off of whether or not the Bible is true, your argument is invalid.

 

Cool story bro. Contribute something intelligent rather than trying to sound cool (and failing, mind) next time.

 

no there is no god..How can you be sure if the people who wrote the bible werent all syco's and crackheads. and were like. Hey lets mess with the future haha these suckers will believe it.

 

you guys are fucking retarted next time read the whole fucking post and the argument bareley mentions the bible. YOU GUYS NO YOU ARE IDIOTS ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU FAIL TO ANSWERE THE ONLY QUESTION I PRESENT. NEXT TIME INSTEAD OF SKIMMING UNTIL YOU FIND A WORD YOU DONT LIKE READ THE WHOLE POSTS YOU GUYS ARE ALL SCARED BECAUSE THEY ARE ABSOULTELY TRUE GOOD FIGHT YOU GUYS FAIL EPICALLY

ALSO FORGET ABOUT EXISTANCE ANSWER MY QUESTION ABOUT DEATH IDIOTS.

 

God does exist, it's sad how people disagree. It's also sad how people will risk going to hell just to fit in. I agree with a few people in here, god does exist, and no one can change my mind.

 

No, God does not exist....there is no god no devil,satan if you will, no buddah, no allah, nor is there any other "Higher Being". It's all a load of crap. I mean...Do any of you honestly think that on man could create all the world, universe and everything?? I think not. Plus there is no physical proof that anyone of that stature exists or ever did exist. So fuck off you christian fucks and get a life!


But if i honestly had to choose between God or The Devil......I'm going with the red guy =/

 

Perhaps if you'd properly format your post in to English that can be interpreted I might actually consider properly reading your post. I did manage to read it all, however.

As for death, death is the loss of consciousness without regaining consciousness. Some people refer to it as the ultimate end. It really isn't hard to comprehend, we simply lose consciousness and the conscious person we once were ceases to be. Leastways that is the default explanation, as it is the most logical explanation and also considering there is no evidence to suggest otherwise. What we do know however, is that when one dies, the brain ceases to function, and the brain is essential for one to be conscious in the first place.

Would you care to explain why you think God exists? And also, an adamant oppinion is irrational; you enter a debate in admittance that your oppinion may be changed.

 

wow you still havent answered my question quite sad considering you think your a genious.

 

Buddha (Siddhartha Gautama) existed.

Also, under the assumption that something did create everything, no one ever claimed it to be a man.

Also, Christains aren't the only ones who believe in a God.

Why ?
If two beings, those entities being God and "Devil", existed, by all means, the most rational thing would be to be on the side of God.

Simply because if there were any need for a Devil, the sides would be categorized as Good and Evil, and if I had to choose one to sustain for all eternity, it'd definitely be the good one.

>.<

 

I did answer your question, you just failed to comprehend my answer. Or perhaps you didn't phrase your question in a way that anyone can understand. If you're willing to rephrase your question, I'm willing to provide another answer. To put it bluntly, NOTHING happens after a person dies other than their loss of consciousness and the decomposition of the body (assuming it isn't cremated). To give you an answer about the point of life, you're assuming all atheists and agnostics are nihilists, and I must stress that they certainly are not. Everyone has their own personal meaning for life. My reason to live is that I enjoy living, and I live to enjoy myself. I enjoy learning, I enjoy reading, I enjoy making software. I do all of these things because I enjoy it, and to me, living for myself is enough reason to continue living until my time of death.

You're making assumptions that I think I'm a genius on the matter, and I can tell you I honestly don't study this kind of thing; I'm not a religious scholar, and I'm speaking from my own common sense. If you'd like to try and provide evidence to sway my oppinion, please do so. I will tell you however that no-one in this thread has managed to do so yet, because they sound so blatantly zealous (and stupid) for the most part. That isn't an ad hominum, it's honestly what I see when I read posts like yours.

 

I promise you, no one with a valid argument to make ever claimed that they were a genius. Not on this thread, at least.

What happens after death:

We get skull-fucked by maggots. It's as simple as that.

So, by your logic, it's "Cause, effect, _____". That's not the way it works. That's not the way anything works. We're born, and we live. It's not pointless. Living is going through the effect stage, and after that, there is nothing.

Hm, if there's either there be a God or there not be a God, why choose there not be a God? Well, if there were a God, and I'm going to entertain the assumption that you're christain, I doubt he'd let it slip if subconsciously, those who "believed in him" really didn't, and only said they did.

There's also the fact that anything that ever pointed towards the existence of God was utterly ridiculous and obviously either badly-constructed or made-up.

There's your answer.

 

I was just listing various Religious figures...

Why are you assuming that "God" would be the entity representing good?
Because a "book" told you? Is that why? Tell me i'm curious as to how you came to that assumption.

 

Christianity is a relationship, not a religion