The Existence of God

Lol an omnipotent God is imaginary, there is no such thing. Can God create a stone so heavy that he can not lift it? If he can create a stone like that and no lift it, then he is no omnipotent. If he can't create the stone then he is also not omnipotent.

And if you believe in God and he doesn't exist, then you have wasted your whole life obeying an imaginary guy's rules!

 

We've gotten past this. There are only two explanations.

Either the concept of an omnipotent God is impossible, or too complex for a mind to comprehend, therefore giving the only opening to explaining it would be saying that it is, indeed, impossible.

 

yes, i think there is =l

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal's_Wager

 

Pascal's Wager is flawed, mostly because anyone who believes because of it is believing because of cowardly bet-hedging and fear, and nothing more. Hardly the sort of "faith" required to get in to heaven, according to the Bible.

 

I don't believe in god simply because there is scientific explanations for most things.

 

if there's a creation it must have a creater

 

Argument ad Ignoratum: You don't know therefore God must have done it!

Well, that's as far as your logic goes anyway (hurr what logic). First of all, why do you take the premise that we are a creation? According to scientific law nothing may be created or destroyed, only changed. With this in mind, I think it's fairly safe to say what currently exists has always existed in some form or another.

Do you have anything intelligent to contribute?

 

I dont believe in god for the reason of all the bad things, deaths of babies plauges etc. I think that if there is a god he is an asshole for teh things he has done.

 

But, is there a devil?

 

So is your logic.

There are many versions of the heaven that Pascal's Wager can be applied to, many of which don't follow the general "Bible", referring to Christianity.

If you base your logic off of the required "faith" to get into the christian heaven, then it'll barely make sense.

I have very little choice but to agree with your post, but I found a video that I thought was very interesting, relating to the same post he made.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzITGB7NHF4

Much of the video is nonsense, but the part about the wooden blocks, I think, is worth looking at.

If your view is that there is a God, one that is credited to creating and deleting all in a perfect manner as to sustain existence, then I highly doubt that there would be a Devil.

 

I for one say If theres a God Theres a Devil.

Where is some actually Proof that god Made "Life"?.

And please dont even tell me the "Bible".If I was to write book as some Man who was In BC or AC.And said there was a Magical Fairy in the Clouds.Would you Believe me?

 

If there were some entity credited with being able to create, delete, and allign with the properties that most Gods are assigned to, then I highly doubt that they'd put up with something ruining their creations. If anything, if there's a God, there is no Devil.

 

imo no some ass (probs jesus) with too much power and time on there hands came up with the idea that we were created by whoever "god" is.

 

i dont believe in god i want to but it just doesnt make sense to me if there was any form of proof other thanthings that happened in the past id believe

 

It's called faith. Don't apply it to just Chrstain/Catholicism.

Assume the scenario that God had no set religion to be worshipped by. Also assume the scenario that if there was a God, or a creator of all things, he simply did the creating, and let us as inhabitants of the general concept of existence roam freely and either try to decipher what it's creations were, or make our assumptions of it's creator.

This would mean that no Bible you read, no church you went to, and no one you talked to about it would have any logical standpoint in proving that a God exist. This brings us back to Pascal's Wager, but a different version.

In this scenario, living as God existed and living as God didn't exist were slightly similiar. They'd both be subconcious, and wouldn't noticably affect your physical form. There would be no praying, because God doesn't have a set religion. All it is, basically, is believing that a creation demands a creator.

If you see a painting, there's proof that somewhere, there is a painter.
If you see a book, there's proof that somewhere, there is a writer.

It may have it's holes, but it's an option that many people could take who make posts like yours.

 

Yes i do believe there is a God, but in my own sense.

 

I believe in God for my own reasons/experiences. Throughout my life certain events have completely changed the way I think about life in general. I used to be a hardcore atheist/agnostic, but am no longer.

The hardest concept for me to accept is the origin of existence. How can something be in existence forever into the future and forever into the past? It's something I can't fathom.

 

So are you Christian?

and if so, you'd believe that creation ~ 6000 years ago has yielded a better explanation?

Or that asserting an entity, of still unknown origin, suffices your understanding of our existence?

 

Yes, I am a Christian.

No, I am not saying that creation proves to be a better explanation, I believe both theories have their flaws. I was simply stating that I find it hard to accept that an entity could have existed an infinite number of years agol, or in terms of the BBT, how nothing can become something.